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Seems a little early. He could still oversee a major implosion.

Doubtful. but possible.

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wtf, they vote on this with a 1/4 of the season remaining?

Does Nagy get some kind of bonus for this honor? If so, he should send part of it to Khalil Mack.

And this claim...



...remains unproven at best.

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You didn't think his 23 touchdowns an 9 picks were solid before his suckage Sunday?

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TD:INT ratio isn't a revealing statistics in Nagy's offense. The HC has a raging hard on for passing.

He's a one (read) and done quarterback. Is that solid?

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You didn't answer my question. All of his production wasn't based off of 1 read either.

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Through the first 10 games pretty much across the board his production was top 10. If that isn't "solid" then I have no clue what solid is.

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You pretty much know what I thought of him prior to the Rams debacle--that he's a talented guy who has performed erratically so far. And yeah, his passing stats on secondary reads are pretty bad.

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anyone who watches the games could tell those stats are a mirage.

If you actually watched the games, you'd have a more nuanced and informed opinion.

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I thought his erratic play was almost entirely the first 3 weeks. I think the numbers would show that. He compared very favorably to his peers for those 7 games. Do we know how well other quarterbacks perform on secondary reads. It seems like with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky there is always a "But he doesn't do THIS well." Being able to compare him to his peers when it comes to the "buts" would help.

He's not going to be Mahomes. No one will. I would also like to see him take a couple of steps forward with his accuracy.

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I've watched every game. I've even watched games the Bears aren't playing in. You and others want to hold (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky to a standard that no other quarterback is held to.

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Nagy says this too and it's also bullshit when he says it. All QB's who fuck up a lot, and Mitch goes in that category so far, are heavily scrutinized. When Mitch starts improving, he will no longer get criticized as often as he does. That's how these things work. Nobody is out there to personally attack Mitch and Bears fans. The victim card is a bad look on you, I'd give it back to chas.

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He did improve tremendously but people couldn't forget his first 3 weeks.

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Improvement isn't linear. He also played very erratically even when he was playing "well".

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Very few quarterbacks have perfect performances. This isn't me saying that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky doesn't need to improve. This is me saying that calling his play for most of the season "solid" isn't generous. I believe most Bears fans hoped that he would be a middle of the pack quarterback by the end of the season. Even according to your rankings he was top 15. Top 15 is solid. That's something you can build on.

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I had him 16th, and that's on a list that doesn't include injured QBs like Jimmy G, Dalton, or Alex Smith.

He's 22nd in passer rating right now:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... assing.htm

I like Mitch's potential. He hasn't been very good this season outside of the Tampa Bay (bottom 5 pass defense) game.

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I don't know if you're trolling or not. He was ranked ahead of Rodgers a couple games ago in every category EXCEPT interceptions and you told me that the ranking was meaningless and that touchdown to interception was the only important stat. Conveniently that was the stat Rodgers was ahead of (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky in.

His game log would say that the Bucs game wasn't his only good to very good game.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/30115/gamelog/

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Nagy and every other coach in the league

Solid starter means what exactly?

Top 15?

I think Mitch is certainly that.

I don't think so. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has been very good against teams like Tampa, Detroit, and Miami but has been pretty bad (if not abysmal) against the Rams, Minnesota, Arizona, and Buffalo. Since you use the Rams game as an outlier, what happens if we do the same for the Tampa game? Take away that matchup, and Mitch has 15 TDs and 12 interceptions for the year. Is that "solid"--or even starting caliber play--for that matter? I guess you're right, it might be unfair to label Mitch "erratic" because that adjective errs on the side of generosity.

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I’ve said Y/A and TD/INT ratio are the two most important ones. Mitch doesn’t stand out in either category.

Rodgers is having probably the worst year of his career. I wouldn’t consider his 2018 season a benchmark of greatness Mitch needs to surpass.

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Certainly seems a little generous.

He’s right around the middle of the pack spot.

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He was ahead of Rodgers in Y/A the last time we had this discussion.

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Last time we had this discussion he had just surpassed Rodgers in that category by a decimal point, and Rodgers has since passed him back up. But, like I already said, Rodgers is having the worst season of his career and he hasn't played well statistically outside of TD/INT ratio, which is a stat he plays worse by purposely padding.

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The Rams game was the worst game of his career and he still outperformed his counterpart. The Vikings game wasn't bad. He once again outperformed his counterpart and made winning plays to ensure a Bears victory. That being said I never said that you should take away any of his games. I don't think 24 touchdowns and 12 interceptions is awful. If you did take away his best game and worst game he would still 17 touchdowns and 9 interceptions. That's solid.

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Generous placement. Trubinsky's poor performance has wasted a lot of potential positive plays from Nagy's superior scheming and play calling. I'd wager the definition of average QB in Dalton would have superior performance in an identical situation.

He might be right at 15, which would make him slightly above average. But the problem with that ranking is that none of the QBs ranked below him seem to have solid futures ahead of them as starting QBs. Mitch occupies the borderline between starter and backup right now, and it's not immediately clear which way the pendulum will ultimately swing. If he doesn't learn to read defenses more effectively reasonably soon, though, he will either be benched or suffer serious injury from running too frequently.

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