The Bears need to pay this man - give him a new title, whatever he asks for. This defense is special and he's a large part of the reason for pulling it together around Mack this year. Pay him whatever he wants, LOCK HIM UP for 3 years at least.

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They gave him new money last year.

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Have to keep him from considering a HC gig.

When I think of all the good money the McCaskeys have thrown after bad over the past few years, this is a no-brainer.

Do what you need to do to keep this man in your organization throughout his remaining NFL career. Whatever the title/position/job - keep him.

Grobber: "Period. End of sentence. New paragraph."

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The clock may be running out on that.

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Pete Carroll is 6 years older than him.

Two words for Vic Fangio; Buddy Ryan. Stay and continue to succeed rather than leave and be marginalized.

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Pete Carroll looks and carries himself like he's 20 years younger. I think Fangio loves Chicago and young offensive coaches appear to be a priority.

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I'm hoping coaching Mack is too big of a draw to try to leave. So much possibility with a generational talent like that.

It depends on his ambition - does he want to be a HC or not? If he's fine with being a DC for the rest of his career, then you make him the highest paid DC ever. Anything short of that means you think he's disposable. If he has ambitions to be a HC then there's nothing you can do about that except for have him replace Nagy if for whatever reason he starts to fall apart.

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Pete Carroll has been a head coach for a couple of decades and won NCAA and NFL championships.

Hiring Fangio would go against just about every NFL coach hiring trend right now. Old, defense, media unfriendly, not a players coach.

I could see him being attractive to someone like the Bengals, but then they would have to change their team culture of welcoming miscreants. He might be work for the Browns but I would bet they are going for someone to bond with Mayfield.

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Yep. Which is why I don't understand why FF has said he is at the top of his list for the Packers.

The guy is a great DC, but there is a reason he has never been a head coach.

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Dolphins and Broncos just requested an interview with Fangio for HC.

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You would have said the same about Bruce Arians before he got his shot.

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I'm already at the stage where I'm accepting that he's most likely gone. There are simply too many openings, and I can't see all of these teams jumping on the young offensive coach trend.

Arians and Fangio are different in just about every way possible.

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If he were to leave, I sure hope he doesn't end up in our division - namely Green Bay.

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What is the reason Fangio hasn't gotten a shot and how does that differ from the reason Arians never got a shot?

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The only similarity that they share is they were both older assistants that for a long time did not get a shot.

If you listen to interviews of both you will quickly see how different they are as coaches/people.

Arians is way more of the Pete Carroll mold of a coach which works in this culture.

Fangio is an old curmudgeon that does great as an out of the spotlight coordinator. I don't see him as someone who would excel in being the man for an entire team.

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Fangio is like Mr Reason. He is old and not going to try anything new at this point. He does what he does well, and that is that.

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I guess my point was you never know. Plenty of people surmised that, since Arians was on the older side, there was a "reason" he had never got a HC job. Then he gets a shot by happenstance and knocks it out of the park. As for the personality characteristics, there are plenty of successful coaches in all sports league that aren't exactly warm and fuzzy with the players they coach. The best coach in the NFL is the obvious example. And I don't get why media relations is a metric that fans care about. Obviously, owners and GMs will care about that, but I don't get why fans would.

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Arians is an offensive coach.

If I'm a team, the way I would look at it is that I want to hire my coach for the next decade. Fangio will be 61 before the next season starts. Even if you hit it out of the park with him, he really isn't a long term solution

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Popovich and Belichick were both hired being warm and fuzzy weren't requirements.

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I don't think anyone is saying he couldn't be a good HC. I think we are saying that it is not likely given leaguewide trends and his employment history that he leaves.

He couldn't even get himself hire as the 49er head coach.

Frankly, I think we are in good shape even if he left. I'd be very comfortable handing the defense to Donatell

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If Fangio leaves, Nagy will hire Todd Bowles. They are really close. I though they were going to give each other handjobs during their post game handshake.

I would think the majority of teams/fan base would rather have a consistent winning record with a Belichick type personality vs a losing history with a Nagy type of guy?

Personally, I would.

However, we are fortunate to have Nagy and a great season.

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From a marketing perspective you want to win with a guy like Nagy in addition to having a nice looking quarterback.

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True dat. Difficult to argue anything there. Like I said - we are fortunate.

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Not a thing wrong with giving Fangio more money to keep him around if that is possible.

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