No he shouldn't and spoken like a guy that typically backs losers.

You play the most talented guy and hope for the best. I can name you plenty of top 10 guys that don't a lick of D and Jabaris D helped save a game for them earlier in the year. He also is one of the better rebounders on a team lacking in rebounders. Not to mention one of the better scorers and playmakers.

While college styled coaching Boylen wants to talk "playing the right way" they are getting blasted on a damn regular.

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Jabari is a good 6th or 7th guy on a contending team. His knees simply prevent him from locking up anyone on the defensive end. There will be other dudes from Chicago who play on the Bulls in the future. Just don't expect them to be top tier free agents.

That said Boylen is an idiot, but his perceived incompetence is the best thing for the proper tank this season.

This is another lost season for the Bulls that will put you in an early grave if you try to suffer through every game.

There are ways to easily stream/watch every NBA game each night. No reason to bludgeon your own soul with bad Bulls basketball when there are plenty of other entertaining games to view.

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LTG's idea of a "talented" guy appears to be someone who can score 25 while giving up 27.

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Nah i got the league pass so i usually move it around. It just irks a little that this clown is more than likely going to be the coach next season. GarPax will also still be the GM. Thats a losing strategy.

Its not even a Chicago thing. I wasn't in favor of Wade and I was ambivalent about allowing Rose ti leave. It was time.

Truth be told I fought the Jabari all through High School and even his year at Duke. I became a believer at some point as its obvious the kid can play. Far too young to simply give up on.

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And yours is a guy that gives up 25 while scoring 6 and going 2 for 12.

NBA is an offensive league. You can't be offensively challenged and expect to be competitive.

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Giving up 25 is not my idea of a talented guy - that's why I said Jabari is a piece of shit. Are you reading the thread?

You appear to be okay with a bunch of "talented" guys scoring 20+ while giving up more than they score. Question: in a game of one on one, if Jabari scores 30 on 15 of 15 shooting, and his opponent scores 32, do you know what happens at the end of the game?

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Is James Harden "not talented"?

How about Steve Nash?

Steph Curry?


How many of the top 10 guys actually play defense?

The better players in the league have always been guys that were offensive minded.

Do you understand that?

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Their offense output will forever exceed Parker's which is why their weaknesses are overlooked. Jabari is a scrub which is why he's disposable.

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Didn't take long to demonstrate your hypocrisy regarding defense.

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Not hypocrisy. You're the one comparing Jabari Parker to James Harden. Parker is trash.

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Know its hypocritical to say defense matters then follow it up by saying it only matters if the guy isn't a James Harden type offensive player. Thats hypocrisy.

Either it mattters or it doesn't.

Whatever the case is benching the highest paid player while he can still contribute is stupid..


This clown is claiming that he wants a more competitive team yet runs 4 guys out that should be in the damn D League. He is an idiot and Jabari Parker will be an NBA player for a much longer time than he will be an NBA coach.

Care to make a wager?

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Isn't a big factor theses elite offensive scorers have players on their team who can pick up the defensive slack, and much better offensive systems to exploit their strengths?

The Bulls have neither, correct?

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It always matters. Those other guys are worth the trouble of working with them to improve D. Jabari doesn't even understand the concept of defense.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... IJNreLBCr6

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Don't have any elite offensive scorers either.

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Bulls have 4 guys with the potential to be very good defensively. Carter. Dunn. Hutchinson. Harrison. All 4 are very good. of those 4 3 should be in the rotation.

Parker was giving them 19 and 9 over the month prior to being benched. This clown comes in scapegoats him immediately and proceeds to bench him. If you look at his Utah record you find that he ran a number of players out of the program by doing stupid shit just like this.


He thinks that he will win by playing games in the 80's and 90's he is stupid. There is no excuse for keeping the guy glued to the bench as you lose by 40. Its dumb.

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Are you his agent? Who cares? He'll never be a difference maker. He's a bust and scrub.

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I hated the Parker signing and dislike his attitude but I really don't see the justification for not even bothering to play him at this point, especially with Portis back on the shelf. If they want to trade him and not get back worse contracts in return, they should be showcasing him since there are evidently no takers at the moment. And if they're just going to sit him for the rest of the year, then I definitely don't want to hear the excuses that Boylen can't be fired because Jerry wouldn't want to pay 3 coaches at once considering the front office would have just blown $20 million for less than 30 games of Parker. This just reeks of more of the typical pettiness from the most deluded front office in the league.

It also seems to be missing the forest for the trees to complain about Parker's lack of effort on defense when Boylen's 90s bullshit has the team en route to being one of the worst offenses of all time and is no doubt instilling tons of bad habits on all of the core pieces we're ostensibly supposed to be so worried about developing.

I care because I am actually a lifelong Bulls fan.


I wondered when the non sequitors would start rolling in. They have so have a good one.

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Bulls don't want to accidentally win any of these games.

Couldn't agree more.

How in the hell is he instilling all of these great habits when he allows bum ass Antonio Blakeney to enter the game in the first qtr and get up 9 shots in 11 min? As occurred last night.

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But there's a weird back-and-forth in this thread where one argument is that Parker shouldn't play because he's a net negative contributor and another is that he shouldn't play because he's too good.

Racist.

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Even noted (at least on here anyway) company man Sam Smith is taking this clown to task. Essentially says that he is employing a style of ill suited for the roster that he has.


The Bulls since Boylen replaced Fred Hoiberg as coach have initiated a slower, more defensive-oriented game to improve the competitiveness on a more consistent basis. It's been somewhat effective, if not artfully appealing with low scoring, closely contested games. The top ranked Raptors in the last game needed a strong late effort from star Kawhi Leonard to squeeze out a win at home. Before that, the Bulls had won three of four while averaging fewer than 100 points per game and ranking last in the NBA in offense.

Could it continue? Should it?


Boylen is faced with a intriguing conundrum. He wants to reestablish a toughness and defense identity for the Bulls, though the prime of the roster with potential star players like LaVine and Markkanen aren't particularly fitted for the slower game. LaVine and Markkanen are skilled and athletic and likely would prosper by scoring easier baskets in transition. Plus while Carter is a physical player, he's smaller than most elite centers. Boylen believes he has to establish a physical, defensive-oriented identity, which has been a touchstone of Chicago basketball success. But at the same time, he's got athletic players who aren't physical playing in an NBA era that promotes guard-oriented, open court play and shooting.

It doesn't make for an easy answer, which is why there are so many wrinkled brows and uncertain expressions among the players after a game like Wednesday's game.

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My complaints about Parker are divorced from the overall performance of the team - I simply don't care about this season, I've written it off. It's a joke. To go even further, I've written this entire organization off following the hiring of Hoiberg. Even more so if that's possible once they signed Wade and Rondo. I think I had a debate one time with FF about how much of a joke this team/organization is relative to the rest of the league. I think they're the biggest joke in the NBA given the size of the city and market. There's no way any organization that has the resources we have should be as poorly run as we are. So yeah... definitely not missing the forest here. I don't care about Parker, Boylen, etc. Nothing matters until we get some proper leadership.

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3 Words: New York Knicks

But yes, overall I agree with your sentiment.

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I thought about them but wasn't sure if they've stared to turn a corner yet. I think between this Bulls era and the Isaiah Thomas Knicks era it'd be real hard to say which team is the bigger joke. Probably NYK for all that dead money they gave to players like Eddy Curry and Jerome James or whatever his name was.

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They're a game behind the Bulls right now, and will probably be stuck in NBA hell for another generation.

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So to sum it up you only care about the Bulls when they win?

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