He had a very good year because he had an anomaly in his INTs. Otherwise, we had the same stats as Mitch this year.

Different era of passing rules even back then so that has to be considered.

Anyways, not that I really care, fuck Brees, fuck that shitstain on his face and fuck that cock sucker Rivers too. Pick a town Chargers.

Pretty good. I still do not believe he is a finished product. He was better this year, and better from week one to week three, and from week five to week seventeen. That is huge IMO.

I expect big things out of him next year. Maybe not quite 5000 yards and 50 TDs, but he has to be a gamechanger next year.

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I pretty much agree with you. He did not have a good game. It changes nothing I think about the future really.

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Way different league with different rules. Did you not watch the NFL back then? Brees was good.

He played 1 game his rookie year. Kinda silly to count that.

Encouraging:

- Mobility AND pocket presence, which aren't the same. He would make any O-line look better because he can sense pressure and knows where to go to avoid it

- Physical tools - he has plenty of arm and good wheels

- Attitude - he seems almost child-like in his enthusiasm. Sometimes it can come off as "dumb," but that's what you want in a leader. He is not cynical. He will buy into anything the coach tells him. That makes for a good leader.

- Resilience - He doesn't unravel into a pile of Jay Cutler when he makes a mistake

- His lack of college experience makes it more likely that he has room to grow (I hope, anyway)

- He has a good hard count, but he needs to start snapping the ball after the defender jumps so he can have some free plays

Needs Work:

- Inconsistent accuracy on all levels (short, medium, deep). He is frequently high or out in front on crossing patterns and often overthrows or leads his receiver out of bounds on deep balls

- Still seems uncomfortable in standard drop-back situations. He can't roll out every play

- He still locks on to receivers. He made progress this year, but he still needs to do better.

- Still has trouble reading defenses, which leads to throws that are sometimes baffling, like the near-pick in the end zone yesterday

- He can still be slow on the draw when a receiver breaks open which is what leads him to run more in certain games/situations

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Let's not forget a good deal of Mitch's offense was with his legs. He also seems pretty accurate when he's on the run. That's a nice skillset moving forward

No, he wasn't. Everyone thought he sucked, including SD. That's why they drafted Rivers.

Agree, leash. With your "needs work" category, 99% of that can be improved upon with practice and coaching.

This can be huge IMO. He also seems to command his huddle, and he appears to have bought in to Nagy's offense. I'm not saying that Nagy & Mitch is going to turn into Brady Belichick, but they appear to have the building blocks in place for future success.

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You are wrong. He got hurt which is why they gave Rivers the job. HE sure as hell didn't suck. He was very good. I hoped like hell that the Bears would have signed him back then. With him and that defense, the Bears would have been in 2-3 Super Bowls.

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Ok so it's clear you didnt follow the league back then. You have no clue what you're talking about.

But yea, keep holding the opinion that a QB with a QB rating of 104 "sucked ass"


Like I correctly said. He had one mediocre year, one bad one, then he was good and never looked back. (lowest QB rating since his first two years was 89)

He sucked his first three seasons. They drafted Rivers to replace him because they thought he sucked. He then had his 104 season in his FOURTH season. Then SD had a problem on their hands because they drafted Rivers. But the decision was made easier when Brees destroyed his shoulder in the last game of his following season of which he had an 89 rating because his INTs skyrocketed again.

You just can't remember this because his career really took off after he moved to the Saints and became a HOFer because of the Saints offense.

No one thought Brees sucked when he left the Chargers. That's why New Orleans gave him a 6-yeae, $60 million contract, which at the time was one of the highest in the league. He struggled his first couple years, but his last two years in San Diego, he was Pro Bowl caliber.

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Only question about Brees when he left SD was his shoulder. Not one person/analyst/team/GM doubted his talent by that point.

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Exactly, but in his first 3 seasons, he was not good. So, my point is, how can anyone judge how good Mitch will be when he has only played two seasons and is younger than Brees was before he broke out?

You can't completely, but it seems like expectations for young QB's has changed dramatically even just since Brees was a pup.

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Fans can be morons all they want but Mitch will still have 5 years to show what level he can reach.

The other question was his height and how it would stop him from becoming an elite quarterback. That's why the Chargers were higher on Rivers to the point that they drafted him instead of trying to help Brees out with another weapon.

It is still funny to think the Bears said "No thanks to even talking to Brees, we have Rex Grossman!".

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Looking back, it does, but at the time, Grossman had some moments. I still think he threw one of the prettiest balls ever.

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Brees' shoulder injury was ugly. I'm sure many teams were concerned about his ability to throw a football moving forward. Especially for the type of money he was going to get.

The fact that you keep including his rookie season where he played one game is hilarious.

His interceptions didn't skyrocket. He was 24/15 which was fine back then. You're nuts.

The first year he didn't play.

Had a normal first year as a starter season. Then a bad one, then a great one and was good after that.

Its clear you didn't follow the league back them and are attempting to judge him based off stats compiled under far different rules.

Mitch will have to limit the amount of times he runs the ball next year. If he continues to use it as a crutch he will suffer more and more injuries.

Mitch improved quite a bit from his 1st season to his 2nd. His improvement to season 3 will be more nuanced imo, but it will be enough to be a consistently ‘good’ QB (and maybe even better than that).


And the way I see it (injury aside) a good QB backed by a great defense can keep you in contention year in and year out.

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Mitch is definitely going to be good. Possible he might be great. I think his first half of the Eagles game was effected by the play calling.
Another year in the system is going to help a lot. Also, Anthony Miller is probably going to be really good. It should be a fun year next year with him in this offense.

I hated Rex.. but he threw a really nice deep ball. Almost perfect 'touch' on it. I still wonder what would have been if the Bears kept Orton (who had talent as well) and continued to add to that defense/offense in the draft. Give Lovie's defenses a game managing QB (which I think Orton was perfect for) and add some more talent.. imagine keeping that 1st round pick (I think we gave up a couple actually) and grabbing Orakpo, or Clay Mathews?

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Mitch has a ways of improvement to go, but I've seen some really nice things. I do not see him ever being elite, but I think he will be good.

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