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Another great game for Buster Young last night. 17 pts, 10a, 5r.

He could get 10 pts a game just on floaters.

The NBA needs a odd looking and rumpled star. The greatest thing about Larry Bird was he actually looked like a bird.



Last game they showed footage of Trae back on the court late after a game ended with just him and his dad working on floaters. He's got the work ethic and desire to be great.


Really amazing to see how wrong everyone was about his game. Out of college it was assumed he could shoot ligths out, but wasn't quick enough to beat his man off the dribble and get to the lane. Now that he's in the league his biggest asset has been his ability to get into the lane almost at will while his shooting has struggled.





A more accurate depiction of how "great" he has been playing.

Hawks' Trae Young: Inefficient night Friday


Young struggled to find his rhythm Friday, hitting just 4-of-15 shots on his way to nine points. He has only shot 40 percent or better in one of his past 10 games. He is generally producing decent scoring numbers based purely on volume and his assists certainly help when looking at his overall fantasy value. Young should still be on a roster everywhere but the efficiency is likely to remain an issue moving forward, so be prepared

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Buster Young named Eastern Conference Player of the month. Celebrated by dropping 20 on Steph and the Warriors last night, his first time playing vs Steph.

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Buster Young named Eastern Conference Player of the month. Celebrated by dropping 20 on Steph and the Warriors last night, his first time playing vs Steph.

Well look at that LTG :shock:

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Buster Young named Eastern Conference Player of the month. Celebrated by dropping 20 on Steph and the Warriors last night, his first time playing vs Steph.

Well look at that LTG :shock:



You're continuing to lockstep agree with this clown? At some point watch the games and stop relying on idiots like Shakes. He shot 8 for 20 from the field and scored 20 in a game that was over by the start of the 2nd qtr. In fact Steph outscored the entire Hawks team by himself in the first quarter. 19 to 18 as I remember. Trae was also given the quick hook by Pierce. Pulled at around the 7 or 8 minute mar of the first quarter. As usual he scored most of his points after the game had already been decided. Most of his "droppings" were done versus Quinn Cook Who? Did I mention that he also had 7 turnovers Walt?


The Warrior announcers (Some of the best in the business by the way) also spent most of the night bashing him about his slightly built body and his terrible shooting percentage. They continued to stress how stupid the Steph comparisons happened to be. Even brought Dell aboard to discuss the differences between the two. Dell correctly pointed out that Steph shot 44% from 3 as a rookie and has never shot under 41% from 3 in any season of his career. Trae is at about 20% from 3 right now. Did I mention that his overall Shooting % is at 32% over his last 10 games? The same 10 games that were part of his "Rookie of the month" period.


Continue to rely on jerks like Shakes for you basketball info Walt. I guess you have to when you don't actually watch the games. Even the Rookie of the month (East) is watered down because all of the top rookies (Doncic, Ayton, Jackson) are in the West. He has no real competition in the East other than Carter and he is in a better situation.


The Warrior announcers spent all night lambasting Trae Young. Then again you'd know that if you actually watched the games. Keep relying on No Great Shakes for your info however. I will just let him send you over a damn cliff

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Buster Young named Eastern Conference Player of the month. Celebrated by dropping 20 on Steph and the Warriors last night, his first time playing vs Steph.

Well look at that LTG :shock:



You're continuing to lockstep agree with this clown? At some point watch the games and stop relying on idiots like Shakes. He shot 8 for 20 from the field and scored 20 in a game that was over by the start of the 2nd qtr. In fact Steph outscored the entire Hawks team by himself in the first quarter. 19 to 18 as I remember. Trae was also given the quick hook by Pierce. Pulled at around the 7 or 8 minute mar of the first quarter. As usual he scored most of his points after the game had already been decided. Most of his "droppings" were done versus Quinn Cook Who? Did I mention that he also had 7 turnovers Walt?


The Warrior announcers (Some of the best in the business by the way) also spent most of the night bashing him about his slightly built body and his terrible shooting percentage. They continued to stress how stupid the Steph comparisons happened to be. Even brought Dell aboard to discuss the differences between the two. Dell correctly pointed out that Steph shot 44% from 3 as a rookie and has never shot under 41% from 3 in any season of his career. Trae is at about 20% from 3 right now. Did I mention that his overall Shooting % is at 32% over his last 10 games? The same 10 games that were part of his "Rookie of the month" period.


Continue to rely on jerks like Shakes for you basketball info Walt. I guess you have to when you don't actually watch the games. Even the Rookie of the month (East) is watered down because all of the top rookies (Doncic, Ayton, Jackson) are in the West. He has no real competition in the East other than Carter and he is in a better situation.


The Warrior announcers spent all night lambasting Trae Young. Then again you'd know that if you actually watched the games. Keep relying on No Great Shakes for your info however. I will just let him send you over a damn cliff

FYI I mute all games why do I need to hear Young needs to put on some muscle?

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Watch a lot of Trae because of this thread. Offensively, even with teams adjusting to him, he's improving. The floaters are starting to find the bottom of the net. Defensively, he's the worst I've ever seen. He has no fight whatsoever on that end. The hint of a screen puts him in the fetal position. By this time, he should at least give half a shit that he's getting humiliated.

For the record, he's always pulled at the 7 or 8 minute mark. He's also usually pulled the last 2-3 minutes before half. The last 3 or 4 games, Atlanta is better with him on the floor. That hasn't mostly been the case before then. Lin with a -17 last night. Other than Collins and a wildly inconsistent Prince, Trae is out there with a bucket of shit. Huerter might be alright someday. Really long for a white guy


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Watch a lot of Trae because of this thread. Offensively, even with teams adjusting to him, he's improving. The floaters are starting to find the bottom of the net. Defensively, he's the worst I've ever seen. He has no fight whatsoever on that end. The hint of a screen puts him in the fetal position. By this time, he should at least give half a shit that he's getting humiliated.

For the record, he's always pulled at the 7 or 8 minute mark. He's also usually pulled the last 2-3 minutes before half. The last 3 or 4 games, Atlanta is better with him on the floor. That hasn't mostly been the case before then. Lin with a -17 last night. Other than Collins and a wildly inconsistent Prince, Trae is out there with a bucket of shit. Huerter might be alright someday. Really long for a white guy



John Collins has made a bit of a difference in the starting lineup. His shooting percentage is putrid for a guy reputed to be a shooter. It actually has been on tge decline as well as his scoring avg. He has shot over 40% once in the past 11 games. The reason that he is pulled is because they don't want him playing against top level pgs. Its the reason he was pulled last night and the reason he was pulled in those earlier games. He is starting to see "those guys" now and Pierce knows he doesn't stand a chance.

They wanted him matched on Cook so they sat him til the 2nd qtr. G.S. announcers were laughing at him last night and it was obvious they weren't sold on him at all. Actually said he should have remained in college on a few occasions.

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Watch a lot of Trae because of this thread. Offensively, even with teams adjusting to him, he's improving. The floaters are starting to find the bottom of the net. Defensively, he's the worst I've ever seen. He has no fight whatsoever on that end. The hint of a screen puts him in the fetal position. By this time, he should at least give half a shit that he's getting humiliated.

For the record, he's always pulled at the 7 or 8 minute mark. He's also usually pulled the last 2-3 minutes before half. The last 3 or 4 games, Atlanta is better with him on the floor. That hasn't mostly been the case before then. Lin with a -17 last night. Other than Collins and a wildly inconsistent Prince, Trae is out there with a bucket of shit. Huerter might be alright someday. Really long for a white guy


nice to see someone on this forum who understands basketball.


Collins and Trae are a great foundation going forward. That gives them the pick and roll combo they're gonna need going forward. Huerter and Spellman both have looked decent this year and could end up being solid. Prince is at best a rotation guy on a mediocre team. Hopefully they use the next couple drafts to load up on some size and some wings.

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fantastic showing from Trae last night. Even outplayed Luca in the contest.

24 pts on 11/20 shooting, 10 assists to 2 TO. Even had a couple steals.

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He didn't outplay Luka, and the Hawks lost.

I'm a BIGFAN of Trae, but this is getting delusional.

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He didn't outplay Luka, and the Hawks lost.

I'm a BIGFAN of Trae, but this is getting delusional.

he's not a BUST either

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He didn't outplay Luka, and the Hawks lost.

I'm a BIGFAN of Trae, but this is getting delusional.


How did he not outplay Luca?


Same points and Trae did it on better shooting and with more assists and less turnovers. That's called out playing someone.

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Deangelo Russell gave him 32 and 7 in 29 minutes.

Trae currently trying pad his stats when the game is already decided.

Another blowout loss.

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another solid game for Trae today. Double double #9 on the season, 13 and 10. Collins played great. Team has a couple nice pieces in Trae and Collins. Add a Zion or RJB to the mix next year and this team can start to look like something.

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Trae with another solid night, 19/4.

Floater and outside shot looking more solid recently.

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15 and 10 for Trae last night at the Garden. 5/9 from the field, interestingly didn't take a 3 the entire game. Only 2 turnovers.

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fantastic game for Trae last night.16pts on 7/11 shooting, 11 assists.


believe he is now 4th in the entire league in terms of PGs getting double doubles.

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Trae does it on back to back nights, dominated the Sexton matchup for the 3rd time this season.


21pts on 8/16 shooting, 9 assists

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Getting coached for the first time in his life. Seems like it's sticking. Him and Collins are working REALLY well together. Seems like he's finally facing his fears on the defensive end because when he doesn't, he gets yanked.

Rather watch the Hawks than the Bulls. Less talent, but better coaching. The game winner out of bounds of play in Minnesota was a work of art.


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Getting coached for the first time in his life. Seems like it's sticking. Him and Collins are working REALLY well together. Seems like he's finally facing his fears on the defensive end because when he doesn't, he gets yanked.

Rather watch the Hawks than the Bulls. Less talent, but better coaching. The game winner out of bounds of play in Minnesota was a work of art.


Yeah Pierce looks like he knows what he is doing behind the bench.


Young looks like he is abandoning the whole 2nd coming of Steph Curry thing for now too. I was shocked to see that he hadn't taken a 3 til the end of one of their games last week.

If he does that more consistently the percentage should rise but his defensive problems will haunt him throughout his career.

He has no chance to ever be good defensively. He is baby food for just about any guard in the league.

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Getting coached for the first time in his life. Seems like it's sticking. Him and Collins are working REALLY well together. Seems like he's finally facing his fears on the defensive end because when he doesn't, he gets yanked.

Rather watch the Hawks than the Bulls. Less talent, but better coaching. The game winner out of bounds of play in Minnesota was a work of art.


Yeah Pierce looks like he knows what he is doing behind the bench.


Young looks like he is abandoning the whole 2nd coming of Steph Curry thing for now too. I was shocked to see that he hadn't taken a 3 til the end of one of their games last week.

If he does that more consistently the percentage should rise but his defensive problems will haunt him throughout his career.

He has no chance to ever be good defensively. He is baby food for just about any guard in the league.

Baby steps. All he needs to do to get from being atrocious to just bad is quit being scared to death. I think at this point that's all Pierce is asking of him. As soon as Trae gets "alligator arms", so to speak, boom, out he comes.

Teams are starting to bounce him around when he does his floater. Let's see how that affects him.

Opinions vary on him. One thing for sure is he's an interesting player. I know I'm fascinated. Collins loves him and he should. He missed a bunny from a fantastic bounce pass in traffic and went over to Trae and apologized.


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Trae continuing to play well. Ever since December started he's been great.


19 pts, 5 boards, 4 assiss and a couple steals at Toronto.

Was playing so well Toronot put Leonard on him in 1v1 coverage for the final play of the game...unfortunately Leonard smothered his drive and Atlanta lost, but no shame in that.

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Trae continuing to play well. Ever since December started he's been great.


19 pts, 5 boards, 4 assiss and a couple steals at Toronto.

Was playing so well Toronot put Leonard on him in 1v1 coverage for the final play of the game...unfortunately Leonard smothered his drive and Atlanta lost, but no shame in that.

Watched the whole game. Pierce is a tremendous coach. Every guy, good or bad, is settling into a role. Trae has, or is, becoming the bailout guy when the clock is running down. Drive and kick. They had that game under control. They were a victim of terrible, blatant non-calls the last 3-1/2 minutes. Even the legendary Carter was shoved in the back out of bounds with no whistle.


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Trae continuing to play well. Ever since December started he's been great.


19 pts, 5 boards, 4 assiss and a couple steals at Toronto.

Was playing so well Toronot put Leonard on him in 1v1 coverage for the final play of the game...unfortunately Leonard smothered his drive and Atlanta lost, but no shame in that.

Watched the whole game. Pierce is a tremendous coach. Every guy, good or bad, is settling into a role. Trae has, or is, becoming the bailout guy when the clock is running down. Drive and kick. They had that game under control. They were a victim of terrible, blatant non-calls the last 3-1/2 minutes. Even the legendary Carter was shoved in the back out of bounds with no whistle.


agreed on Pierce. Love his demeaner, he rarely looks upset even with some of the bonehead plays the rookies do from time to time. And he is always pulling Trae aside to teach him things. And he does a good job holding Trae accountable. He'll pull him from a game if he takes a couple bad shots or misses a couple defensive assignments. Liked last night how he started Lin alongside him to relieve some of the ballhanding duties vs a really tough defensive team like Toronto.

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He's stringing some good games together...as I knew he would...when he's doing well ltg doesn't post

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He's stringing some good games together...as I knew he would...when he's doing well ltg doesn't post


He shot 6 for 15 with 7 assists and 6 turnovers. That isn't a good game.

The guy he was guarding scored 23 and shot over 50% from the field playing less than half the game. Thats a good.

Get tired of hearing about how great guys are playing when they aren't. He has played slightly better but he is still only shooting 39% on the year with 26% from 3. He avg 4 turnovers per game. He also is the worst defensive player in the league.
His offensive rating is 96 and his defensive rating is 115. I note that for people that care about that sort of thing. Every advanced metric has him in the negative. Again i say it for those that like that sort of thing.

When you comsistently bash guys like Simmons and praise bums like this there is no need to take you serious. Not to mention your non stop trolling. Its old and boring at this point.

No one pays you much attentiion and I presume its because they know what your angle happens to be. At some point have a thought that doesn't pertain to me or something you think that I have said. You know have an original thought for a change.

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He's stringing some good games together...as I knew he would...when he's doing well ltg doesn't post


He shot 6 for 15 with 7 assists and 6 turnovers. That isn't a good game.

The guy he was guarding scored 23 and shot over 50% from the field playing less than half the game. Thats a good.

Get tired of hearing about how great guys are playing when they aren't. He has played slightly better but he is still only shooting 39% on the year with 26% from 3. He avg 4 turnovers per game. He also is the worst defensive player in the league.
His offensive rating is 96 and his defensive rating is 115. I note that for people that care about that sort of thing. Every advanced metric has him in the negative. Again i say it for those that like that sort of thing.

When you comsistently bash guys like Simmons and praise bums like this there is no need to take you serious. Not to mention your non stop trolling. Its old and boring at this point.

No one pays you much attentiion and I presume its because they know what your angle happens to be. At some point have a thought that doesn't pertain to me or something you think that I have said. You know have an original thought for a change.

I don't comsistently bash Simmons! Now Fultz they know your angle see Saunders post

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He's stringing some good games together...as I knew he would...when he's doing well ltg doesn't post


He shot 6 for 15 with 7 assists and 6 turnovers. That isn't a good game.

The guy he was guarding scored 23 and shot over 50% from the field playing less than half the game. Thats a good.

Get tired of hearing about how great guys are playing when they aren't. He has played slightly better but he is still only shooting 39% on the year with 26% from 3. He avg 4 turnovers per game. He also is the worst defensive player in the league.
His offensive rating is 96 and his defensive rating is 115. I note that for people that care about that sort of thing. Every advanced metric has him in the negative. Again i say it for those that like that sort of thing.

When you comsistently bash guys like Simmons and praise bums like this there is no need to take you serious. Not to mention your non stop trolling. Its old and boring at this point.

No one pays you much attentiion and I presume its because they know what your angle happens to be. At some point have a thought that doesn't pertain to me or something you think that I have said. You know have an original thought for a change.

I don't comsistently bash Simmons! Now Fultz they know your angle see Saunders post


Your discussions regarding Fultz (a guy that doesn't play) is consistent with your discussion regarding games (you don't watch).

Its a waste of time to talk about a guy that is injured and not playing. If he plays then we can have a discussion about him. If he ends up retiring then we can discuss him. I have no interest talking about an injured guy. If he turns out to be a bust then cool have at it. You are talking an injured guy and saying "see I told you so". It is for the birds.

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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
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He's stringing some good games together...as I knew he would...when he's doing well ltg doesn't post


He shot 6 for 15 with 7 assists and 6 turnovers. That isn't a good game.

The guy he was guarding scored 23 and shot over 50% from the field playing less than half the game. Thats a good.

Get tired of hearing about how great guys are playing when they aren't. He has played slightly better but he is still only shooting 39% on the year with 26% from 3. He avg 4 turnovers per game. He also is the worst defensive player in the league.
His offensive rating is 96 and his defensive rating is 115. I note that for people that care about that sort of thing. Every advanced metric has him in the negative. Again i say it for those that like that sort of thing.

When you comsistently bash guys like Simmons and praise bums like this there is no need to take you serious. Not to mention your non stop trolling. Its old and boring at this point.

No one pays you much attentiion and I presume its because they know what your angle happens to be. At some point have a thought that doesn't pertain to me or something you think that I have said. You know have an original thought for a change.

I don't comsistently bash Simmons! Now Fultz they know your angle see Saunders post


Your discussions regarding Fultz (a guy that doesn't play) is consistent with your discussion regarding games (you don't watch).

Its a waste of time to talk about a guy that is injured and not playing. If he plays then we can have a discussion about him. If he ends up retiring then we can discuss him. I have no interest talking about an injured guy. If he turns out to be a bust then cool have at it. You are talking an injured guy and saying "see I told you so". It is for the birds.

I say I won't watch Da Bulls until they make the playoffs and you keep saying I don't watch any games so you again lie and keep deflecting shit away from you...I haven't posted shit about Simmons in probably a month you jagoff

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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
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He's stringing some good games together...as I knew he would...when he's doing well ltg doesn't post


He shot 6 for 15 with 7 assists and 6 turnovers. That isn't a good game.

The guy he was guarding scored 23 and shot over 50% from the field playing less than half the game. Thats a good.

Get tired of hearing about how great guys are playing when they aren't. He has played slightly better but he is still only shooting 39% on the year with 26% from 3. He avg 4 turnovers per game. He also is the worst defensive player in the league.
His offensive rating is 96 and his defensive rating is 115. I note that for people that care about that sort of thing. Every advanced metric has him in the negative. Again i say it for those that like that sort of thing.

When you comsistently bash guys like Simmons and praise bums like this there is no need to take you serious. Not to mention your non stop trolling. Its old and boring at this point.

No one pays you much attentiion and I presume its because they know what your angle happens to be. At some point have a thought that doesn't pertain to me or something you think that I have said. You know have an original thought for a change.

I don't comsistently bash Simmons! Now Fultz they know your angle see Saunders post


Your discussions regarding Fultz (a guy that doesn't play) is consistent with your discussion regarding games (you don't watch).

Its a waste of time to talk about a guy that is injured and not playing. If he plays then we can have a discussion about him. If he ends up retiring then we can discuss him. I have no interest talking about an injured guy. If he turns out to be a bust then cool have at it. You are talking an injured guy and saying "see I told you so". It is for the birds.

I say I won't watch Da Bulls until they make the playoffs and you keep saying I don't watch any games so you again lie and keep deflecting shit away from you...I haven't posted shit about Simmons in probably a month you jagoff



At some point you just lose interest in responding to non stop trolling. That may be your getdown but it ain't mine.

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