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I'm not worried about (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

At minimum, with experience, he's a solid, consistent QB that will keep you in games as a floor.

I think he will progress beyond that. He's not a limiting factor to success.

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Is his best comp Dave Krieg?

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Is his best comp Dave Krieg?


Tom Brady.

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Regular Reader wrote:
Is his best comp Dave Krieg?

Blake Bortles.

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Nas wrote:
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Is his best comp Dave Krieg?


Tom Brady.


As a Wolverine maybe.

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Is his best comp Dave Krieg?

Blake Bortles.


He's already the 2nd best quarterback in the division and will be #1 before the end of the season.

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Is his best comp Dave Krieg?

Blake Bortles.


He's already the 2nd best quarterback in the division and will be #1 before the end of the season.

He’s the 4th best still. Relax.

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Is his best comp Dave Krieg?

Blake Bortles.


He's already the 2nd best quarterback in the division and will be #1 before the end of the season.

He’s the 4th best still. Relax.


You're insane

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Nas wrote:
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Is his best comp Dave Krieg?

Blake Bortles.


He's already the 2nd best quarterback in the division and will be #1 before the end of the season.

He’s the 4th best still. Relax.


You're insane

No. It’s insane to think he’s anything other than the 4th best at this time. He was pretty bad most of the year.

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Is his best comp Dave Krieg?

Blake Bortles.


He's already the 2nd best quarterback in the division and will be #1 before the end of the season.

He’s the 4th best still. Relax.



Be objective, it's a tie for second with the other two guys who don't win games, but just at best, hope to not lose them.

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Is his best comp Dave Krieg?

Blake Bortles.


He's already the 2nd best quarterback in the division and will be #1 before the end of the season.

He’s the 4th best still. Relax.


You're insane

No. It’s insane to think he’s anything other than the 4th best at this time. He was pretty bad most of the year.


Even though he missed 2 games his numbers were better than Stafford's and Cousins proved to everyone (except IMU) that he's a mental midget and you can't win with him.

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I would say he is the 3rd in the division right now.

Cousins is terrible.

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Regular Reader wrote:
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Is his best comp Dave Krieg?

Blake Bortles.


He's already the 2nd best quarterback in the division and will be #1 before the end of the season.

He’s the 4th best still. Relax.



Be objective, it's a tie for second with the other two guys who don't win games, but just at best, hope to not lose them.

I am being objective. I don’t like Stafford and Cousins but put them in Nagy’s offense behind that line and they would have put up enormous numbers this season.

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FavreFan wrote:
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Is his best comp Dave Krieg?

Blake Bortles.


He's already the 2nd best quarterback in the division and will be #1 before the end of the season.

He’s the 4th best still. Relax.



Be objective, it's a tie for second with the other two guys who don't win games, but just at best, hope to not lose them.

I am being objective. I don’t like Stafford and Cousins but put them in Nagy’s offense behind that line and they would have put up enormous numbers this season.


(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky makes that line look better. We all saw the difference with his replacement. Stafford regressed last year and Cousins would suck no matter what. He has better offensive weapons in Minnesota.

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I would say he is the 3rd in the division right now.

Cousins is terrible.


He was better than Stafford this year despite missing multiple games.

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Nas wrote:
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Blake Bortles.


He's already the 2nd best quarterback in the division and will be #1 before the end of the season.

He’s the 4th best still. Relax.



Be objective, it's a tie for second with the other two guys who don't win games, but just at best, hope to not lose them.

I am being objective. I don’t like Stafford and Cousins but put them in Nagy’s offense behind that line and they would have put up enormous numbers this season.


(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky makes that line look better. We all saw the difference with his replacement. Stafford regressed last year and Cousins would suck no matter what. He has better offensive weapons in Minnesota.

The weapons never meant anything to Cousins. Give him a line and he will put up numbers. Lose big games but put up big numbers.

We won’t agree on this. You’re giving Mitch credit for things the line and Nagy did for him.

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Your Packers bias is blinding you. Based on this you'll never give him credit.

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Your Packers bias is blinding you. Based on this you'll never give him credit.

I will when he earns it. But I watch the games and he has a damn long way to go. He’s not a good QB right now.

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Your Packers bias is blinding you. Based on this you'll never give him credit.

I will when he earns it. But I watch the games and he has a damn long way to go. He’s not a good QB right now.


On balance, he wasn't in college either. Which made his pick foolish.

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Your Packers bias is blinding you. Based on this you'll never give him credit.

I will when he earns it. But I watch the games and he has a damn long way to go. He’s not a good QB right now.


Bullshit. He's about the 12 or 13th best in the league and he improved all season.

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Your Packers bias is blinding you. Based on this you'll never give him credit.

I will when he earns it. But I watch the games and he has a damn long way to go. He’s not a good QB right now.


Bullshit. He's about the 12 or 13th best in the league and he improved all season.

No. You are box score scouting and that’s gonna lead to some really bad conclusions.

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Your Packers bias is blinding you. Based on this you'll never give him credit.

I will when he earns it. But I watch the games and he has a damn long way to go. He’s not a good QB right now.


Bullshit. He's about the 12 or 13th best in the league and he improved all season.

No. You are box score scouting and that’s gonna lead to some really bad conclusions.


I'm watching games and supplementing the games I don't see with box scores. That's literally what you do too. You aren't watching every Vikings or Lions game. You may not even watch every Packers game.

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Your Packers bias is blinding you. Based on this you'll never give him credit.

I will when he earns it. But I watch the games and he has a damn long way to go. He’s not a good QB right now.


Bullshit. He's about the 12 or 13th best in the league and he improved all season.

No. You are box score scouting and that’s gonna lead to some really bad conclusions.


I'm watching games and supplementing the games I don't see with box scores. That's literally what you do too. You aren't watching every Vikings or Lions game. You may not even watch every Packers game.

Fair to question my GB fan credentials but I watched every Bear games this season and only caught like 10 GB games. Stopped watching GB after the AZ loss.

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Stafford isn't going to scramble for 30 yards a game to move the sticks.

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Stafford isn't going to scramble for 30 yards a game to move the sticks.


Put a steak in front of him and he might.

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Stafford isn't going to scramble for 30 yards a game to move the sticks.

True but he’s able to look at more than one read before hauling ass out of the pocket.

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Put a steak in front of him and he might.

No doubt. Can’t wait to see that guy at 400 lbs 3 years after retirement.

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We won’t agree on this. You’re giving Mitch credit for things the line and Nagy did for him.


I see it the other way around. Your dislike of Mitch is giving the line and Nagy credit for the progress that Mitch has made this year. did you not see how horrible Chase Daniel looked behind center?


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Stafford is just not a winner, despite putting up good numbers for most of his career. It is reasonable to say that Mitch has a higher ceiling.


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Not only is FF dumb as a box of rocks about football but he also can't back up his bullshit on other things.

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