Give him a break. He's been immersed in Buffalo Bills and Tennessee Titans highlights on YouTube just to see a preview of what his team is gonna look like next year.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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You can provide the information and the sample size and the opponents and any other facts to support your claim.

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Weak trolling. 32 out of 32 NFL teams right now would fire their offensive coordinator if it meant they could replace them with Kyle Shanahan. Were you impressed by that high flying 49er offense this year?

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He wants McCarthy back now

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I'm good on getting in a long, drawn out ltg/JLN style debate. Those are awful.


I thought I was talking to a fellow NFL fan who already knew what KC and Williams have been doing. My fault.

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Hell no. I'd be willing to bet a decent amount the Packers offense will improve next year from what it did this year.

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 Fuck outta here with that just because you have no rebuttal or facts.

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Resorting to plagiarism now! Smh

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I don't agree with that. Unless I'm missing something shanahan had one great year as OC before being hired in SF. And at least had something to point to - not sure what your guys have to point to other than being really good friends with Blake Bortles (that's a serious thing - the OC is on good terms with Blake Bortles. That came up in articles on the OC hire).

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T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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You're missing something. He's universally regarded as one of the brightest offensive minds in the NFL regardless of age, and he's done very well when given even adequate talent to work with. There are hundreds of articles from all sorts of sources backing this idea up. I'm not close to an NFL insider, I just follow a lot of NFL writers and reporters and none of them seem to disagree with that.

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Well even given that the comparison is not apples to apples. Laflower or whatever does not come with the same considerations. And the OC is best known for befriending Blake Bortles.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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I understand why Rodgers likes him

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The OC thing is easy to goof on, even I did when I first posted it here, but it's irrelevant. Like someone already mentioned, the Bears OC was a failure at Oregon and he hid behind Nagy successfully this year. It will come down to if LeFleur know what he's doing or not, and considering how ravaged TN was by injuries and how little talent they had even when healthy, I'm not putting a lot of stock into a one year sample size.

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Keep hope alive!

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On a serious note I'm really curious about the job hopping. One year with the Rams and then one year with the Titans. And he's doing this as a nobody, not as a Mike Martz type of dude who is established. Must have done really really well at the interview. Given the track record though I'm surprised he even got an interview.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

I don't worry about any of that stuff. McCarthy, Fox, and Jeff Fisher all have extensive track records. They would all be abysmal choices for a HC job right now.

Nagy didn't have much of a record (see Rick and I's multi thread debate when he was hired). Andy Reid had zero track record when he was hired by Philly. McVay hadn't proven anything at all. I can keep going. There just isn't much of a correlation between track record and success, at least for a good long while now. We can also go back to Belichick's only track record being that of failure before NE.

McCarthy had little resume and presided over the 30th ranked offense in the league when he was hired and then won a SB and went to 3 NFC championship games in 13 years. I obviously don't like the guy but he had a successful tenure in GB if going by only results.

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Using McVay and Reid is hilarious. McVay was bred by NFL royalty and Reid comes from one of the most successful trees in modern NFL history.

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And both had little resume and zero track record of success when hired. That’s what we are discussing. No one is saying LeFleur is the next Reid. Keep up.

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assaulting a women is wrong no matter what she said...the Bears don't need this type of slime on their team

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

You can protest while I celebrate super bowl wins.

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Let him serve his penalty and if management is certain he is not a locker room problem, sign him to 2yr contract with no guaranteed money the first year and built-in bonuses the second year. He is also on a zero tolerance policy agreement; even getting stopped for a traffic violation can result in release. Low risk, high reward.


Yesterday's comments at the presser was floating a trial balloon to gauge the fans' interest in signing him. Nagy is smart enough to know that he would be asked questions about the subject.

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Helfrich's resume strikes me as more impressive than Hackett's. Keep in mind that Helfrich had one losing season during his tenure as Oregon head coach and was fired. Generally, though, his Oregon career was marked by major successes. His offenses regularly ranked among the best in the country and were regarded as highly innovative.

The same can't be said for Hackett. He's really only had one very good season as an OC, and even then his offensive scheme wasn't considered groundbreaking, given its reliance on a conventional running attack and play-action passing.

The bottom line is that Helfrich's hiring underscores Nagy's commitment to developing a creative, dynamic offense whereas Hackett's hiring suggests LaFleur will embrace a more conventional approach to offensive football.

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Play action is arguably the most important facet of McVay's offense. I don't consider heavy use of that to be part of a conventional offense.

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just unbelievable

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

AGREED! Let me tell ya, the most innovative offense I ever saw rank 21st in points per game in the regular season in NFL history.

So your position is that the Bears offense wasn't considered inventive this past season?

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I always assumed Fangio's defense in year 1 which was ranked 30th, would remain so over his entire time with the Bears.

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My guy Herb Lawrence seems to be bothered by the idea of a Bears fan wanting Hunt on the team.

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Herb went out to San Diego to get his nuts cut off. Gimme some Hunt.

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I thought Herb was an Uber driver?