I dunno. I get why people are saying you can't let what happened yesterday happen again, but this seems like it could be a shitshow in application full time. There's arguably PI on almost every deep route.

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yeah pretty much every passing play could be reviewed.

Fuck that.

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I think it has to be in the last 2 minutes, and they need to keep it indisputable and make them stick to that concept.

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Yes. Hell yes.

Show the subjective nature of these fucking refs to the whole world.

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my idea of replay coaches challenge 2 per game is slightly less dumb than this one

You can't review this. PI is subjective. You're going to be asking refs to determine if certain receivers possess the talent to catch a ball if they weren't bumped/jammed.

Dumb. We need less replay not more

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i think that there should be a replay official in the booth for every game whose sole responsibility is to look for egregious errors in officiating, and this official has the authority to stop the game and take a closer look if he or she deems it necessary. This would not require constant stoppages of play, as there is typically plenty of time between most plays to see at least a quick replay or two to determine if there is a legit problem. If the official sees that the offense is purposely hurrying to the line for no other reason than to prevent him or her from doing their job, they stop the play until they have a clear enough look to ensure the call is correct. coaches having to "buy" challenges and getting penalized for daring to question them and losing the challenge and timeouts is bullshit. If you are going to have replay, you need to do it right and make sure all horseshit calls are rectified when possible.

i agree with this part for sure, that is why downfield PI should NOT be a spot foul. Just assuming someone was going to catch the 50-yard contested bomb is ridiculous.

Agree with everyone regarding what a bad idea this is. Also I have no idea why pass interference should be any more privileged for review than some of the roughing the passer nonsense we saw this year or offensive holding or any other penalty really. Well I do have an idea why and it's because of people just being over-the-top in their reactions to Saints-Rams and because it will allow the NFL to tip the scales even further in favor of the offense.

Outside of the "uncatchable" part of it, which shouldn't exist anyways, there are plenty of PI penalties that aren't subjective.

This isn't perfect, but you could say that PI can be called if "the ball is between the quarterback and the wide receiver and the defender is contacting the outstretched arms or taking the player to the ground".

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if you aren't going to use it to its full potential, then you should just dump replay completely and get things moving again. I dont mind a replay delay if it is a bad call and it needs to get overturned, but if there aren't rules in place to fix obvious wrongs even though the technology exists to make it right, then avoid all of the complaining by just killing review altogether an maybe add an extra official or two to the field and play ball.

I don't necessarily disagree, but the NFL doesn't need to add officials. The league prints money. Make the officials full time employees, pay them as such, and they likely will get a lot better at their jobs.

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If it was done with a clear clarification of how a defender is "supposed" to defend them then it wouldn't really tip the scales. Make it so it isn't pass interference unless you have your arms at an angle towards the player or something. Basketball has a similar rule about having your arms straight up when going for a block and it works well enough.

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That's just good hard-nosed football. Ideally even a review would confirm such.

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Adding more things to review doesn’t fix the problem. You have part-time refs you get part-time calls. Add a ref or 2 to the field and make them full time.

If you really cared about making the best call on the field, you would give the officials the option of saying "Hey, we aren't sure, can we see it on video?" and then they make the call they think is best. I would only allow this in the last two minutes though.

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The NFL already has the rule that if the defender is making a clear play on a catchable ball, it's not interference, and vice versa.

It doesn't get more clear that the defender wasn't making a play on a catchable ball.

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How in the hell would a CB break up a catch?

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Even if you write a sufficiently clear rule about what defenders are supposed to do (something I have little faith in the league actually being able to achieve given recent hits like "surviving the ground" and "body weight on the quarterback"), this would still tip the scales in favor of the offense by allowing uncalled offensive penalties to escape the scrutiny we're now applying to defensive pass interference.

I don't really understand the question. They aren't breaking up a catch if the ball is between the QB and the WR.

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Zeph is killing it. Too bad the offensive loving brainlets at the league will push this through

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Even if you don't call the clear PI, in this day and age, how can the one of the officials not throw the flag for the helmet to helmet hit?

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What exactly is between the QB and WR in terms of body position?

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Not really. It's already heavily biased towards the offense. If you are really concerned about that then you simply provide more actions for the defense to play without penalty. I'll use the basketball example again. When you are blocking a shot, it is never supposed to be a foul when your arms are completely vertical. You could give the defensive player the option of putting his arms either to his side or straight up without knocking the WR over.

The real issue with PI is that defenders are pretty much trained to grab the arms of the WR whenever they think they are going to catch it with the hope that the official doesn't call it.

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On top of it, he clearly targeted the head with a helmet to helmet hit. That can be a stand alone personal foul penalty. Like going back to review if a guy stomped on someone's neck.

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It doesn't have to do with body position. It has to do with the ball being between the QB and the WR.

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That's a solid headline

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Brick, defenders reach around to deflect passes all the time. The ball is between the qb and the wr. You want that contact to be a penalty? Isn't that a defender making a play on the ball?

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