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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:34 pm 
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I mean, we didn't even win that fucking war. Very Sad.


If we were really upset about "valor", this should send us into orbit, right?

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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I mean, we didn't even win that fucking war. Very Sad.


If we were really upset about "valor", this should send us into orbit, right?


The panties have been wound "pretty tight" here of late.


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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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Do we need to send out a search party for that shit stain FavreFan?

Going to need you to settle down.

Or at least look in the mirror next time you feel like people on the board are ganging up on you.

I don't think you want to push this much further than you already have.
:lol: Pray tell, what will befall me should I continue to "push this much further"?


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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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Do we need to send out a search party for that shit stain FavreFan?

Going to need you to settle down.

Or at least look in the mirror next time you feel like people on the board are ganging up on you.

I don't think you want to push this much further than you already have.
:lol: Pray tell, what will befall me should I continue to "push this much further"?


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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Do we need to send out a search party for that shit stain FavreFan?

Going to need you to settle down.

Or at least look in the mirror next time you feel like people on the board are ganging up on you.

I don't think you want to push this much further than you already have.
:lol: Pray tell, what will befall me should I continue to "push this much further"?


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Ooooh was that a subtle threat of doxxing?


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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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I don't think you want to push this much further than you already have.
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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I don't think you want to push this much further than you already have.
:lol: Pray tell, what will befall me should I continue to "push this much further"?

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a gruesome death
Your relationship with the quote function is the phoniest thing I've ever seen on this board.


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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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I don't think you want to push this much further than you already have.
:lol: Pray tell, what will befall me should I continue to "push this much further"?

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a gruesome death
Your relationship with the quote function is the phoniest thing I've ever seen on this board.


Bested only by your tough guy routine. I'm certain that the "reporting" of the veiled threat is occurring even as you post. Maybe you are going the PM route in order to add a little variety.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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I mean, we didn't even win that fucking war. Very Sad.


If we were really upset about "valor", this should send us into orbit, right?

I think it was about Valor for FF, Drebin and maybe Toxic.

For everyone else it was either a mult investigation or just cheering against one of their board enemies.


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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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For everyone else it was either a mult investigation or just cheering against one of their board enemies.


For certain guys on here it is always about the "cheering against one of their board enemies". Stalking Horse Jones has been clamoring for the comeuppance of FF for the better part of 48 Hours now. He has more invested in this than "The Hawk" does at this point.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
I mean, we didn't even win that fucking war. Very Sad.


If we were really upset about "valor", this should send us into orbit, right?

I think it was about Valor for FF, Drebin and maybe Toxic.

For everyone else it was either a mult investigation or just cheering against one of their board enemies.
Except FF clearly was not interested in allowing Hawk to prove himself to any reasonable standard. If I had to guess, I'd say he didn't think Hawk would agree to his original stipulations, and once Hawk not only agreed but appeared poised to satisfy them, FF brought out the "double-super-secret photographic evidence" requirement out of nowhere. From jump this was about FF beating up on The Hawk and perhaps forcing his ouster.


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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:27 pm 
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
I mean, we didn't even win that fucking war. Very Sad.


If we were really upset about "valor", this should send us into orbit, right?

I think it was about Valor for FF, Drebin and maybe Toxic.

For everyone else it was either a mult investigation or just cheering against one of their board enemies.
Except FF clearly was not interested in allowing Hawk to prove himself to any reasonable standard. If I had to guess, I'd say he didn't think Hawk would agree to his original stipulations, and once Hawk not only agreed but appeared poised to satisfy them, FF brought out the "double-super-secret photographic evidence" requirement out of nowhere. From jump this was about FF beating up on The Hawk and perhaps forcing his ouster.

Im not going to get into a long back and forth but that's not accurate.

FF talked about the burden of proof being more than just sending an email in the 6th post of the thread.

Obviously, anyone could just send military info and that would prove nothing. FF should have detailed it better but your assertion he moved the goal posts was wrong 40 pages ago and it's still wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
I mean, we didn't even win that fucking war. Very Sad.


If we were really upset about "valor", this should send us into orbit, right?

I think it was about Valor for FF, Drebin and maybe Toxic.

For everyone else it was either a mult investigation or just cheering against one of their board enemies.

It was about sexual tension for me


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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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tommy wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
I mean, we didn't even win that fucking war. Very Sad.


If we were really upset about "valor", this should send us into orbit, right?

I think it was about Valor for FF, Drebin and maybe Toxic.

For everyone else it was either a mult investigation or just cheering against one of their board enemies.

It was about sexual tension for me


Followed by sexual healing.....

Wake up, wake up, wake up

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:40 pm 
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
I mean, we didn't even win that fucking war. Very Sad.


If we were really upset about "valor", this should send us into orbit, right?

I think it was about Valor for FF, Drebin and maybe Toxic.

For everyone else it was either a mult investigation or just cheering against one of their board enemies.
Except FF clearly was not interested in allowing Hawk to prove himself to any reasonable standard. If I had to guess, I'd say he didn't think Hawk would agree to his original stipulations, and once Hawk not only agreed but appeared poised to satisfy them, FF brought out the "double-super-secret photographic evidence" requirement out of nowhere. From jump this was about FF beating up on The Hawk and perhaps forcing his ouster.

Im not going to get into a long back and forth but that's not accurate.

FF talked about the burden of proof being more than just sending an email in the 6th post of the thread.

Obviously, anyone could just send military info and that would prove nothing. FF should have detailed it better but your assertion he moved the goal posts was wrong 40 pages ago and it's still wrong.
Oh, so FF moved the goalposts 6 posts into the thread? Wow. But then he moved them again:

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I agree FF. CFMB should be in the photo with the DD214.

Of course. With historical photos and corroboration. I don’t put it past Panther to find a 70 year old
Homeless guy to put in front of a computer at an Internet cafe for $20.


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I’d like that as well. I’ve seen a picture of a jacket and I believe Jorr when he says he’s seen some paperwork. That plus Hawk not accepting direct payment isn’t going to get it done. He’s had over a week now to send the right people a photo of himself in front of the CFMB logged in as Hawk with his stuff. From everything I’ve seen so far it sounds like it can be faked within minutes.


So, let's chart the standard of evidence dictated by FF:

Phase 1: In OP, he demanded photographic evidence of Hawk's service medals, and "historical documentation" corroborating his service.

Phase 2: Very soon thereafter, FF changed his definition of "photographic evidence" to include "a picture of service medals with CFMB in the background".

Phase 3. Finally, FF demanded a photo not just of the medals and CFMB, but a photo of The Hawk, in front of the CFMB website header, while logged in as "The Hawk", all along with evidence of his service.

So yeah, FF tried to shift the goalposts on The Hawk, multiple times. No clue why you don't want to admit it, but hey.


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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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More proof of collusion.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Pretend lawyering

Just talk like a real person.

Obviously the sending of just documents would prove nothing. You'd have to somehow link it to the board. FF overestimated the common sense of some, apparently.

FF didnt detail it well. If you want to paint that as him moving goal posts, have at it.


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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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More proof of collusion.

Your cheering on of FF on the first page will never go away.

Sorry, you cant just eradicate it (or the Jews) from the earth.


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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Im not going to get into a long back and forth but that's not accurate.

FF talked about the burden of proof being more than just sending an email in the 6th post of the thread.

Obviously, anyone could just send military info and that would prove nothing. FF should have detailed it better but your assertion he moved the goal posts was wrong 40 pages ago and it's still wrong.
Oh, so FF moved the goalposts 6 posts into the thread? Wow. But then he moved them again:

[note, if you please, who is egging him on]
FavreFan wrote:
Nas wrote:
I agree FF. CFMB should be in the photo with the DD214.

Of course. With historical photos and corroboration. I don’t put it past Panther to find a 70 year old
Homeless guy to put in front of a computer at an Internet cafe for $20.


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FavreFan wrote:
I’d like that as well. I’ve seen a picture of a jacket and I believe Jorr when he says he’s seen some paperwork. That plus Hawk not accepting direct payment isn’t going to get it done. He’s had over a week now to send the right people a photo of himself in front of the CFMB logged in as Hawk with his stuff. From everything I’ve seen so far it sounds like it can be faked within minutes.


So, let's chart the standard of evidence dictated by FF:

Phase 1: In OP, he demanded photographic evidence of Hawk's service medals, and "historical documentation" corroborating his service.

Phase 2: Very soon thereafter, FF changed his definition of "photographic evidence" to include "a picture of service medals with CFMB in the background".

Phase 3. Finally, FF demanded a photo not just of the medals and CFMB, but a photo of The Hawk, in front of the CFMB website header, while logged in as "The Hawk", all along with evidence of his service.

So yeah, FF tried to shift the goalposts on The Hawk, multiple times. No clue why you don't want to admit it, but hey.

Just talk like a real person.

Obviously the sending of just documents would prove nothing. You'd have to somehow link it to the board. FF overestimated the common sense of some, apparently.

FF didnt detail it well. If you want to paint that as him moving goal posts, have at it.
"I mean yeah, FF kept changing what he said he would accept as proof of Hawk's service but how could you call that moving the goalposts?" Come on.


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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
More proof of collusion.

Your cheering on of FF on the first page will never go away.

Sorry, you cant just eradicate it (or the Jews) from the earth.


God forbid any of us changes our minds when presented evidence contrary to our beliefs.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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More proof of collusion.

Your cheering on of FF on the first page will never go away.

Sorry, you cant just eradicate it (or the Jews) from the earth.


God forbid any of us changes our minds when presented evidence contrary to our beliefs.

Hey, I was (almost for sure) wrong and said it. No problem there.

But the whole thing where you are trying to paint it as collusion, you keep leaving out your role in it.

I just want to give you your due.


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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
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More proof of collusion.

Your cheering on of FF on the first page will never go away.

Sorry, you cant just eradicate it (or the Jews) from the earth.


God forbid any of us changes our minds when presented evidence contrary to our beliefs.

Hey, I was (almost for sure) wrong and said it. No problem there.

But the whole thing where you are trying to paint it as collusion, you keep leaving out your role in it.

I just want to give you your due.


You are missing the point. The collusion theory isn't that the people in the thread ganged up on the Hawk, which did happen and I was part of.

The collusion theory is that attacking the Hawk over stolen valor was the idea of someone (more likely left-leaning someones) other than FF.

Lacking the veteran status and military knowledge, these people used FF to be the public face of a smear campaign. The list of suspects is long but some include CH, IMU, Brick and MANY unindicted coconspirators.

Once the Hawk was able to turn the tables on FF, his handlers abandoned him. He will take the blame and criticism, while another attempt at regulating "wrong think" goes unnoticed by the board at large.

I'm sure the evidence/pms/chat logs are being deleted as we speak, but if one follows the thread I'm sure it ends in the board executive branch AKA the wisemen.

What is more likely? A well known mellow libertarian pot smoker went nuclear apeshit on a poster? Or a cabal of certain "members" organized a plot to disenfranchise a political opponent.

We need a Robert Mueller of the board to untangle this shameful web.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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I mean, we didn't even win that fucking war. Very Sad.


If we were really upset about "valor", this should send us into orbit, right?

I think it was about Valor for FF, Drebin and maybe Toxic.

For everyone else it was either a mult investigation or just cheering against one of their board enemies.

I don't hate FavreFan. I just hate when people encourage pile-ons like that.

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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
ToxicMasculinity wrote:
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More proof of collusion.

Your cheering on of FF on the first page will never go away.

Sorry, you cant just eradicate it (or the Jews) from the earth.


God forbid any of us changes our minds when presented evidence contrary to our beliefs.

Hey, I was (almost for sure) wrong and said it. No problem there.

But the whole thing where you are trying to paint it as collusion, you keep leaving out your role in it.

I just want to give you your due.


You are missing the point. The collusion theory isn't that the people in the thread ganged up on the Hawk, which did happen and I was part of.

The collusion theory is that attacking the Hawk over stolen valor was the idea of someone (more likely left leaning someones) other than FF.

Lacking the veteran status and military knowledge, these people used FF to be the public face of a smear campaign. The list of suspects is long but some include CH, IMU, Brick and MANY unindicted coconspiratoes.

Fun theory but I dont think so. Im in a lot of those chats. FF is his own man.

I was the first to call The Hawk a Panther mult, that was months ago before he even mentioined military service. That's about it. The valor stuff came about in arguments between FF and Hawk.


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 Post subject: Re: DD214 Challenge
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Panther pislA wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
I mean, we didn't even win that fucking war. Very Sad.


If we were really upset about "valor", this should send us into orbit, right?

I think it was about Valor for FF, Drebin and maybe Toxic.

For everyone else it was either a mult investigation or just cheering against one of their board enemies.

I don't hate FavreFan. I just hate when people encourage pile-ons like that.

Ok, I dont mean hate-hate. I mean like board hate.


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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
tommy wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
I mean, we didn't even win that fucking war. Very Sad.


If we were really upset about "valor", this should send us into orbit, right?

I think it was about Valor for FF, Drebin and maybe Toxic.

For everyone else it was either a mult investigation or just cheering against one of their board enemies.

It was about sexual tension for me


Followed by sexual healing.....

Wake up, wake up, wake up

Its the first of the mooooonth. . . .

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The Hawk, do the one simple thing that was asked of you or shut the fuck up and leave it alone. I am now. I’ll gladly pay you and apologize if you take 2 minutes today and send the photo asked. Since you’re unwilling to do that I’m pretty much done with this. Everyone can think what they want of it.


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You and all of your mob need to apologize in public if he proves himself.

Of course. Literally stated in the OP.


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If he passes that test and is verified as real I will send The Hawk $100 and a sincere apology.


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Hope everything is alright with FF, because with how often he said he'd apologize to Hawk for so indignantly questioning his military service, seems to me that this "apology" he kept mentioning would have been first thing up after the proof was handed in.


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For everyone else it was either a mult investigation or just cheering against one of their board enemies.


For certain guys on here it is always about the "cheering against one of their board enemies". Stalking Horse Jones has been clamoring for the comeuppance of FF for the better part of 48 Hours now. He has more invested in this than "The Hawk" does at this point.


LOL @ Stalking Horse Jones. I still love Bmac's "Juicy", but that is solid too. Please continue using that terminology.

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