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That isn't as open and shut as you think

The Rams have better RBs.
The Bears have better WRs.
The Bears have the better TE.
QB is probably close to equal, although (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has better legs than Goff.
The Bears have a better OLine, especially with a healthy Kyle Long.



Regardless, this year's playoffs shows how close the Bears were. Beating the Eagles may have been their biggest challenge of the NFC. The path for the Bears to make the Super Bowl was one they easily could have made, and they failed bigtime. Hopefully that motivates the team, coaches, and organeyezation to be a million times better next season.

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But Hoodie didn't "shut them down" in October, and do you think Nagy would not have thrown something new at the Pats?

The Bears lost their home playoff game to a backup QB, so clearly they did not deserve to be playing in the Super Bowl. Its ignorant to just dismiss how good the Bears were this year though.


He would have thrown something new at the Pats but I don't think the Bears have the personnel on offense to do anything with it. Again the Pats shut down better personnel last night - I don't believe the Bears' offense would cause any headaches for the Pats going into the game, no disrespect to Nagy.

The defense would have done awesome. I think the Pats would have scored a max of 18 on the Bears. But even 13 would have probably got the job done.


I agree with your analysis, which implicitly explains why the Bears will absolutely be signing Kareem Hunt at some point this offseason.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
That isn't as open and shut as you think

The Rams have better RBs.
The Bears have better WRs.
The Bears have the better TE.
QB is probably close to equal, although (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has better legs than Goff.
The Bears have a better OLine, especially with a healthy Kyle Long.



Regardless, this year's playoffs shows how close the Bears were. Beating the Eagles may have been their biggest challenge of the NFC. The path for the Bears to make the Super Bowl was one they easily could have made, and they failed bigtime. Hopefully that motivates the team, coaches, and organeyezation to be a million times better next season.


With due respect I think this misses the forest for the trees. The Rams scored over 100 more points than the Bears over the course of the season, which comes out to about 15 plus more TDs for the year. They threw for way more yards and rushed for more yards as well. The Bears having the better TE doesn't matter in the face of the total package the Rams can throw at you. And I don't agree on the WRs being better on the Bears. The Rams lost some guy mid-season that was awesome. I forgot his name. When he was there they were more explosive. It was Faulk, Bruce, Hakim, Holt reborn.

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:lol: Yeah. That Rams WR who was soooo good and such a game changer, and you can't even remember his name.

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I agree with your analysis, which implicitly explains why the Bears will absolutely be signing Kareem Hunt at some point this offseason.


I'm hoping they can find an explosive element to add to the mix. Can (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky put it all together if they find the right pieces? Idk

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:lol: Yeah. That Rams WR who was soooo good and such a game changer, and you can't even remember his name.


It doesn't matter. He produced. What's funny is you thinking the Bears TE being better than the Rams TE means anything in the grand picture.

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veganfan21 wrote:
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That isn't as open and shut as you think

The Rams have better RBs.
The Bears have better WRs.
The Bears have the better TE.
QB is probably close to equal, although (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has better legs than Goff.
The Bears have a better OLine, especially with a healthy Kyle Long.



Regardless, this year's playoffs shows how close the Bears were. Beating the Eagles may have been their biggest challenge of the NFC. The path for the Bears to make the Super Bowl was one they easily could have made, and they failed bigtime. Hopefully that motivates the team, coaches, and organeyezation to be a million times better next season.


With due respect I think this misses the forest for the trees. The Rams scored over 100 more points than the Bears over the course of the season, which comes out to about 15 plus more TDs for the year. They threw for way more yards and rushed for more yards as well. The Bears having the better TE doesn't matter in the face of the total package the Rams can throw at you. And I don't agree on the WRs being better on the Bears. The Rams lost some guy mid-season that was awesome. I forgot his name. When he was there they were more explosive. It was Faulk, Bruce, Hakim, Holt reborn.


The Ram offense hasn't been the same since they played the Bears.

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good dolphin wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
That isn't as open and shut as you think

The Rams have better RBs.
The Bears have better WRs.
The Bears have the better TE.
QB is probably close to equal, although (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has better legs than Goff.
The Bears have a better OLine, especially with a healthy Kyle Long.



Regardless, this year's playoffs shows how close the Bears were. Beating the Eagles may have been their biggest challenge of the NFC. The path for the Bears to make the Super Bowl was one they easily could have made, and they failed bigtime. Hopefully that motivates the team, coaches, and organeyezation to be a million times better next season.


With due respect I think this misses the forest for the trees. The Rams scored over 100 more points than the Bears over the course of the season, which comes out to about 15 plus more TDs for the year. They threw for way more yards and rushed for more yards as well. The Bears having the better TE doesn't matter in the face of the total package the Rams can throw at you. And I don't agree on the WRs being better on the Bears. The Rams lost some guy mid-season that was awesome. I forgot his name. When he was there they were more explosive. It was Faulk, Bruce, Hakim, Holt reborn.


The Ram offense hasn't been the same since they played the Bears.


There is nothing disputable about the Bears D being able to kick the Rams' asses. The question is can the Bears score points when it matters. My answer is no.

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good dolphin wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
That isn't as open and shut as you think

The Rams have better RBs.
The Bears have better WRs.
The Bears have the better TE.
QB is probably close to equal, although (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has better legs than Goff.
The Bears have a better OLine, especially with a healthy Kyle Long.



Regardless, this year's playoffs shows how close the Bears were. Beating the Eagles may have been their biggest challenge of the NFC. The path for the Bears to make the Super Bowl was one they easily could have made, and they failed bigtime. Hopefully that motivates the team, coaches, and organeyezation to be a million times better next season.


With due respect I think this misses the forest for the trees. The Rams scored over 100 more points than the Bears over the course of the season, which comes out to about 15 plus more TDs for the year. They threw for way more yards and rushed for more yards as well. The Bears having the better TE doesn't matter in the face of the total package the Rams can throw at you. And I don't agree on the WRs being better on the Bears. The Rams lost some guy mid-season that was awesome. I forgot his name. When he was there they were more explosive. It was Faulk, Bruce, Hakim, Holt reborn.


The Ram offense hasn't been the same since they played the Bears.


It's all about Gurley. He's hurt and suddenly McVay is no longer a genius.

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good dolphin wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
That isn't as open and shut as you think

The Rams have better RBs.
The Bears have better WRs.
The Bears have the better TE.
QB is probably close to equal, although (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has better legs than Goff.
The Bears have a better OLine, especially with a healthy Kyle Long.



Regardless, this year's playoffs shows how close the Bears were. Beating the Eagles may have been their biggest challenge of the NFC. The path for the Bears to make the Super Bowl was one they easily could have made, and they failed bigtime. Hopefully that motivates the team, coaches, and organeyezation to be a million times better next season.


With due respect I think this misses the forest for the trees. The Rams scored over 100 more points than the Bears over the course of the season, which comes out to about 15 plus more TDs for the year. They threw for way more yards and rushed for more yards as well. The Bears having the better TE doesn't matter in the face of the total package the Rams can throw at you. And I don't agree on the WRs being better on the Bears. The Rams lost some guy mid-season that was awesome. I forgot his name. When he was there they were more explosive. It was Faulk, Bruce, Hakim, Holt reborn.


The Ram offense hasn't been the same since they played the Bears.


I think so also. I think that Fangio exposed the Rams and Goff. Whether the Bears would have beaten the Pats is 50/50 I think but I know that the Saints would have beaten them.

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Any of the teams that made the NFC playoffs could have lost to the Pats 13-3.

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good dolphin wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
That isn't as open and shut as you think

The Rams have better RBs.
The Bears have better WRs.
The Bears have the better TE.
QB is probably close to equal, although (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has better legs than Goff.
The Bears have a better OLine, especially with a healthy Kyle Long.



Regardless, this year's playoffs shows how close the Bears were. Beating the Eagles may have been their biggest challenge of the NFC. The path for the Bears to make the Super Bowl was one they easily could have made, and they failed bigtime. Hopefully that motivates the team, coaches, and organeyezation to be a million times better next season.


With due respect I think this misses the forest for the trees. The Rams scored over 100 more points than the Bears over the course of the season, which comes out to about 15 plus more TDs for the year. They threw for way more yards and rushed for more yards as well. The Bears having the better TE doesn't matter in the face of the total package the Rams can throw at you. And I don't agree on the WRs being better on the Bears. The Rams lost some guy mid-season that was awesome. I forgot his name. When he was there they were more explosive. It was Faulk, Bruce, Hakim, Holt reborn.


The Ram offense hasn't been the same since they played the Bears.


I think so also. I think that Fangio exposed the Rams and Goff. Whether the Bears would have beaten the Pats is 50/50 I think but I know that the Saints would have beaten them.


CBS showed a film clip in the first half of the Patriots using the same scheme that the Bears came up with against the Rams.

I had to walk away from the TV and wipe away a tear from my cheek. Like i did during the Anthony Lynn commercial.

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Bears are a super bowl level team today without any changes. No doubt in my mind they could have beaten either of these teams. Want himg this game just made me more pissed

any NFL team could've won yesterday. it was a bad super bowl. so now every idiot fan thinks their team blew it.

How many of those teams beat the Rams and were a yard a way from beating the patriots?

Just the Bears?

Ok, then.

I think you’re mistaken. The Bears were never a yard away from from beating the Patriots.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
That isn't as open and shut as you think

The Rams have better RBs.
The Bears have better WRs.
The Bears have the better TE.
QB is probably close to equal, although (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has better legs than Goff.
The Bears have a better OLine, especially with a healthy Kyle Long.



Regardless, this year's playoffs shows how close the Bears were. Beating the Eagles may have been their biggest challenge of the NFC. The path for the Bears to make the Super Bowl was one they easily could have made, and they failed bigtime. Hopefully that motivates the team, coaches, and organeyezation to be a million times better next season.

Put the pipe down. Even without Kupp the Rams WR group is much better than the Bears. With Kupp it’s a laughable comparison.

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Bears are a super bowl level team today without any changes. No doubt in my mind they could have beaten either of these teams. Want himg this game just made me more pissed

any NFL team could've won yesterday. it was a bad super bowl. so now every idiot fan thinks their team blew it.

How many of those teams beat the Rams and were a yard a way from beating the patriots?

Just the Bears?

Ok, then.

I think you’re mistaken. The Bears were never a yard away from from beating the Patriots.


you're going to ignore kevin white's defining catch?


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Bears are a super bowl level team today without any changes. No doubt in my mind they could have beaten either of these teams. Want himg this game just made me more pissed

any NFL team could've won yesterday. it was a bad super bowl. so now every idiot fan thinks their team blew it.

How many of those teams beat the Rams and were a yard a way from beating the patriots?

Just the Bears?

Ok, then.

I think you’re mistaken. The Bears were never a yard away from from beating the Patriots.

They were. They would have for sure gotten the 2 pt conversion.


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Nah. You can't make fun of Kirkwood and then post something ridiculous like that. They were never in a position to beat the Pats.

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I don't think the Pats are invincible and the Bears should have won that regular season game against them. But in the playoffs I think the Pats D schemes would have confused the hell out of (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

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Nah. You can't make fun of Kirkwood and then post something ridiculous like that. They were never in a position to beat the Pats.

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Nah. You can't make fun of Kirkwood and then post something ridiculous like that. They were never in a position to beat the Pats.

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Nah. You can't make fun of Kirkwood and then post something ridiculous like that. They were never in a position to beat the Pats.

Another bad comparison by a Packer fan

They were 1 yard away from likely going to OT. The point is they were right there with the Pats and beat the Rams.


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Nah. You can't make fun of Kirkwood and then post something ridiculous like that. They were never in a position to beat the Pats.

it's fine. grieving is a multi-stage process. right now is the delusional stage

It took me 5 seconds to "get over" the Bears playoff loss. I just recognize bias and spin when I see it.

I dont think you would even pretend you're not biased and trolling Bears fans with every NFL post that has anything to do with them. Would you?


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and btw, one can ALWAYS make fun of Kirkwood.


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I don't think the Pats are invincible and the Bears should have won that regular season game against them. But in the playoffs I think the Pats D schemes would have confused the hell out of (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

Agreed. They'd have to win with a trick play working or defensive scoring.


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Nah. You can't make fun of Kirkwood and then post something ridiculous like that. They were never in a position to beat the Pats.

it's fine. grieving is a multi-stage process. right now is the delusional stage

It took me 5 seconds to "get over" the Bears playoff loss. I just recognize bias and spin when I see it.

I dont think you would even pretend you're not biased and trolling Bears fans with every NFL post that has anything to do with them. Would you?

i'm not trolling bears fans specifically. i'm trolling every fanbase that says their team could've won yesterday.

it's a stupid lament.


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Nah. You can't make fun of Kirkwood and then post something ridiculous like that. They were never in a position to beat the Pats.

Another bad comparison by a Packer fan

They were 1 yard away from likely going to OT. The point is they were right there with the Pats and beat the Rams.

They lost by a touchdown to the Pats and were never in a position to take the lead. I get why you guys want to make it sound closer than it was but they didn't almost beat the Pats.

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Nah. You can't make fun of Kirkwood and then post something ridiculous like that. They were never in a position to beat the Pats.

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Nah. You can't make fun of Kirkwood and then post something ridiculous like that. They were never in a position to beat the Pats.

Another bad comparison by a Packer fan

They were 1 yard away from likely going to OT. The point is they were right there with the Pats and beat the Rams.

They lost by a touchdown to the Pats and were never in a position to take the lead. I get why you guys want to make it sound closer than it was but they didn't almost beat the Pats.

They were 1 yard away from OT. That's a fact. You can try and spin it like it wasn't close, but it was literally 1 yard.


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Nah. You can't make fun of Kirkwood and then post something ridiculous like that. They were never in a position to beat the Pats.

it's fine. grieving is a multi-stage process. right now is the delusional stage

It took me 5 seconds to "get over" the Bears playoff loss. I just recognize bias and spin when I see it.

I dont think you would even pretend you're not biased and trolling Bears fans with every NFL post that has anything to do with them. Would you?

i'm not trolling bears fans specifically. i'm trolling every fanbase that says their team could've won yesterday.

it's a stupid lament.

Right now its the Saints' in a landslide for being bitchiest whiny fucks and about how they would've won yesterday .

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