Just heard Doris Burke talk MVP candidates. Named 8 guys and Joker was nowhere to be found. Embiid was. Thought Favre said he was 3rd earlier today?

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Bumslayer?

Even with a healthy Boogie everybody knows Jokic and Embiid are the best centers in the league now. And Jokic is dominating him.

It’s time to give the Joker his due my friend.

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Jokic is. I’m willing to wager on who finishes higher in mvp votes this year.

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$50 you're on

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Deal. I’ll add it to the other thread

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Cool

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Good deal.

Can you at least admit you underrated Jokic since I started talking him up?

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There is no way that Jimmy Butler was ever a top 10 player.

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I'm not anti Jokic. Like his game. He isn't better than Embiid though. That was my only issue. Embiid is special.

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Embiid is special. Joker is too. He’s Bill Walton 2.0 2019 version. And doesn’t have the injury history.

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Jokic has LeBron like passing. Other fuckin worldly. Wow.

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Ltg even you gotta give it up for the last dime.

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Jokic has yet to lead a team to the playoffs. Embiid did it his 1st full year in the league.

You won't find too many that think he is better than Embiid. Not right now you won't.

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He is an elite passer. Probably top 2-3 regardless of position.Will have to think about it. Embiid is a dominant offensive and defensive player. Can't say that about Jokic

Jokic is nowhere near the post player that Embiid is.

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Your last sentence is right. But Embiid isn’t more dominant than Jokic offensively. Jokic runs the entire offense. As we see tonight, philly is fine when Embiid can’t do much on offense. Jokic is their PG, leading scorer, leading rebounder, he’s everything for them.

And you continue to underrate Jokic’s defense. He played great against Embiid tonight with or without double teams.

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Jokic won the battle and 76ers won the war with Nuggets down a couple starters on the road.

Fun game. Hope Embiid can stay healthy and make this a bit of a rivalry.

KAT is not on this level let’s be clear ltg.

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Jokic 26-10-10 on 11-22 shooting

Embiid 15-12-1 on 4-17 shooting

Tell me again how Embiid is the superior defender.

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Again if they are doubling him.then Jokic thats acknowledging that Jokic is a weak defender. 2 i will have to see how many of those of points were on Embiid. If you are arguing that he is better defensively than Embiid you're wrong.

That block Embiid made at the end of the game Jokic could never make. Not in a million years.

He outplayed my guy tonight. See how i admitted that. try it sometimes.

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I admit when I’m wrong all the time. I did so instantly on Lauri.

Jokic has made that same block several times. I’m not saying he’s as good as Embiid defensively, I’m saying he’s way better on that side of the ball than you give him credit for and he’s a better offensive player because the entire offense runs through him and he does it like LeBron would. It’s incredible. His passing is not simply elite, it’s all time great status. He’s amazing. Let’s give him his props.

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Yeah but there is more to the game than that. Embiid is unstoppable on the block. He controls the paint. Rim protecting and rebounding wise. He isn't the passer Jokic is. This is how you know he is special. That team got better instantly. From the first minute he started playing they improved. He is giving you 27-28/ 12-13/ and 3 assists with 2 blocks. Those are all time great numbers in only his 2nd full season.

He is decidedly the best big in the game. Jokic is distant 2nd.

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You can’t say he’s a distant 2nd when he straight up dominated him tonight in Philly.

Gotta at least admit they are close and it depends on which style you prefer.

Well see how the bet goes. I like my chances.

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How can Jokic make that block when he can't jump over a phone book?

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He can body people up. He did a number on your guy tonight.

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Will have to watch. Your idea of "dominant" often lacks merit. Besides Embiid wins the matchup most of the time and if they were doubling Embiid then that says Jokic can't check him
Know that means nothing to you but i know that thing matters and so does most anyone that knows basketball. May have been the reason that Redick git off.

As far Jokic's defense goes your assessment isn't credible since you thought he was good when everyone (including the guy that coaches him) knew he was bad.

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That block wasn't made by bodying someone up. You have to be able to jump. He can't. I doubt if it was his defense that slowed down Embiid.

I will check for it tomorrow when i have time. Have a good one. Out.

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Alright. We both agree he beat him 1v1 in their only matchup this year.

Hopefully they meet again in the Finals. Jokic is a bad motherfucker.

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Some domination. Only two of the buckets were on Embiid. I didn't see his first 4 points but Of the points i did witness only 4 were on Embiid.

Bad motherfucker got 31 12 and 7 Put on him a week ago by Kat. Came up rather small 13 10 10 against Kat.

Good player though not quite elite just yet. Embiid is however.

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Almost every bucket Jokic scored came with Embiid on the court

Are you really gonna backpedal now and say Jokic didn’t dominate Embiid last night? Even if you didn’t watch the game the stats speak for themselves.

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Doris Burke did say during the game that Embid hadn't been able to keep any food down for 48 hours. So take that for what it's worth.

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Sounds like he was worried sick knowing what Jokic would do to him.