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 Post subject: trade for OBJ?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:19 pm 
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I know this board loves out of season odell beckham talk...

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The Athletic's Jay Glazer's "bold prediction" is the Giants trade Odell Beckham this offseason.
Glazer believes there will be trade talk surrounding OBJ, and he later was asked in a mailbag to offer up a bold prediction for something that will happen this offseason. Glazer went with the Giants trading their star receiver. Just last month, GM Dave Gettleman insisted Beckham would not be dealt, and Gettleman was the one who dolled out the long-term deal to OBJ last summer. Still, Beckham continued to be a thorn in the side of the coaching staff with his off-field chatter and open criticism at times of the play-calling. The Giants were bad with Beckham and could be just as bad without him. If Gettleman gets blown away with an offer, maybe he'd pull the trigger. This is a run-first football team under the current regime.


just for a second... put aside OBJ is just a total bag of a person...

if you added OBJ to the bears offense you'd basically have the lite version of the 2018 KC offense...

mitchell << mahomes
tarik/howard = damian williams
obj<tyreek
ab12 =< watkins
burton << kelce (but burton above average TE)
anthony miller > conley/fat benjamin
o line about equal
run similar if not same offense



which sure as hell on paper would be good enough paired with the current defense. it's too bad that OBJ is a total bag and also that the bears have no good draft picks left to trade.


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Is Hill clearly better than OBJ?


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Is Hill clearly better than OBJ?

No. Odell is better.

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I assumed the bears are out of assets after the Mack and (ugh) (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky trades.

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I assumed the bears are out of assets after the Mack and (ugh) (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky trades.

Mack and a future 1st might get it done.

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Jordan Howard for OBJ.

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Jordan Howard for OBJ.

Would make both teams uneven. Gotta have the Bears throw in Gabriel and the Giants throw in Barkley

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Jordan Howard for OBJ.

Would make both teams uneven. Gotta have the Bears throw in Gabriel and the Giants throw in Barkley

:lol:

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Jordan Howard for OBJ.

Would make both teams uneven. Gotta have the Bears throw in Gabriel and the Giants throw in Barkley


Don't be dumb

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Jordan Howard for OBJ.

Would make both teams uneven. Gotta have the Bears throw in Gabriel and the Giants throw in Barkley


Don't be dumb

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Terrible trade idea. Our shot was Kareem Hunt and we missed

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I don't think Burton is an above average TE, that's our weakness.

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GoldenJet wrote:
Jordan Howard for OBJ.

Seriously?

Why would the Giants even consider that?


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I think the Giants should be the favorite to win the east next year. They finished the season incredibly strong and certainly looked legit to me. They aren't trading him

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Jordan Howard for OBJ.

Seriously?

Why would the Giants even consider that?


Solid backup RB. Someone the Bears would unload.

My level of serious on this is pretty low.

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I don't think Burton is an above average TE, that's our weakness.


he may be mentally weak, but as a WR he's clearly a plus receiving TE.


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I think the Giants should be the favorite to win the east next year. They finished the season incredibly strong and certainly looked legit to me. They aren't trading him

If Eli comes back 8-8 is their ceiling imo.

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I think the Giants should be the favorite to win the east next year. They finished the season incredibly strong and certainly looked legit to me. They aren't trading him

If Eli comes back 8-8 is their ceiling imo.
Not sure that will happen. Rumor has is that Elway wants a real QB competition in training camp, so he is gonna try and trade for Eli too.

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good dolphin wrote:
I think the Giants should be the favorite to win the east next year. They finished the season incredibly strong and certainly looked legit to me. They aren't trading him

If Eli comes back 8-8 is their ceiling imo.


Eli had one of his best statistical years last year, for whatever that's worth

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Regardless of a trade, would OBJ elevate the Bear's offense?

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I think the Giants should be the favorite to win the east next year. They finished the season incredibly strong and certainly looked legit to me. They aren't trading him

If Eli comes back 8-8 is their ceiling imo.


Eli had one of his best statistical years last year, for whatever that's worth

I don't think it's worth much. OBJ was the best QB on that team last year.

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If the Giants were smart, they would package their #1 pick and OBJ to the 49ers for the #1 pick and take a QB.


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If the Giants were smart, they would package their #1 pick and OBJ to the 49ers for the #1 pick and take a QB.

Give up a top 3 WR in the NFL to move up 4 spots in the draft? Not sure I would describe that as smart.

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If the Giants were smart, they would package their #1 pick and OBJ to the 49ers for the #1 pick and take a QB.

Give up a top 3 WR in the NFL to move up 4 spots in the draft? Not sure I would describe that as smart.




You’re right, would make the Giants uneven. Better throw in Manning and Barkley..

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Cashman wrote:
If the Giants were smart, they would package their #1 pick and OBJ to the 49ers for the #1 pick and take a QB.

Give up a top 3 WR in the NFL to move up 4 spots in the draft? Not sure I would describe that as smart.




You’re right, would make the Giants uneven. Better throw in Manning and Barkley..

Exactly.

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I don't think Burton is an above average TE, that's our weakness.


he may be mentally weak, but as a WR he's clearly a plus receiving TE.

Nah.. he's average @ best

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I don't think Burton is an above average TE, that's our weakness.


he may be mentally weak, but as a WR he's clearly a plus receiving TE.

Nah.. he's average @ best

He’s above average. You can’t name 16 TEs better than him.

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I don't think Burton is an above average TE, that's our weakness.


he may be mentally weak, but as a WR he's clearly a plus receiving TE.

Nah.. he's average @ best

He’s above average. You can’t name 16 TEs better than him.



I'm not gonna try, but it'll be close. He's average@ best IMO

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