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312player

Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:42 pm

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Cashman wrote:

312player wrote:

Mock drafts have this guy definitely going in the top 12, he's going to get paid an obscene amount and be back to playing baseball in 4 years. I don't see this guy even being backup level good in the NFL.

Would you really want a 25/26yr old failed football player, at that point?

Moncada is probably 26

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Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:56 pm

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Commited himself to NFL, I would never draft a 5' 7" QB

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Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:24 pm

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I keep reading this guy is 5'10. No chance, look at this pic with Tua ( 6'2") Haskins( 6'3")

https://www.google.com/search?q=dwayne+ ... W-_fOFVcsM

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Nardi

Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:54 pm

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conns7901 wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

Rick, which sport do you think has the better pay structure?

Starting QB and first round pick is a better paying job unless you become a top 20 player in MLB. If he was a WR likely to go in the 4th round or later, MLB would be better. He wont get to free agency until his early 30s in MLB and to take home huge arbitration numbers he has to become a top player in MLB. He can get a large NFL contract at QB being average.

The current CBA is done after the 2021 season and there will a dramatic reduction in service time leading up to FA. After 2021, MANY 26 and 27 yr olds will be unrestricted. Unfortunately for Murray, 22 is a bad age to just be starting a baseball career.

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Furious Styles

Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:00 pm

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He's more like Bernstein's height.

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conns7901

Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:04 pm

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Nardi wrote:

conns7901 wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

Rick, which sport do you think has the better pay structure?

Players union will cave to owners before service time goes down. Owners always win.

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Not over yet.

Yes it is.

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312player

Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:20 pm

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Furious Styles wrote:

He's more like Bernstein's height.

That's what it look likes, he looks about 5'8

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Nardi

Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:45 pm

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conns7901 wrote:

Nardi wrote:

conns7901 wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

Rick, which sport do you think has the better pay structure?

Players union will cave to owners before service time goes down. Owners always win.

They already have a sizable war chest to distribute among the lesser players if there's a strike. This ain't football or hockey.

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conns7901

Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:55 pm

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Great decision by Kyler!

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conns7901 wrote:

Not over yet.

Yes it is.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:24 pm

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conns7901 wrote:

Great decision by Kyler!

Agreed. He’s gonna be great.

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Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:12 am

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FavreFan wrote:

conns7901 wrote:

Great decision by Kyler!

Agreed. He’s gonna be great.

Yep. Definitely another Eddie LeBaron or Davy O'Brien.

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WaitingforRuffcorn

Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:10 am

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We hired the fired Texas Tech coach, ditched the guy we drafted last year, and we drafted this former baseball player, now tiny QB one-year wonder number 1 overall. What could go wrong?

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Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:12 am

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If it doesn't work out, he'll have time to go back to baseball.

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WaitingforRuffcorn

Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:13 am

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GoldenJet wrote:

If it doesn't work out, he'll have time to go back to baseball.

Yep, and that's part of the problem. Honestly, I do not like any the the QBs drafted in the first round this year. Teams talk themselves into these guys.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:14 am

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

conns7901 wrote:

Great decision by Kyler!

Agreed. He’s gonna be great.

Yep. Definitely another Eddie LeBaron or Davy O'Brien.

Russell Wilson

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Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:19 am

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Who knows? Honestly I think a lot of these quarterbacks have careers dictated by their situations. If they have good teams around them they learn, and grow into becoming good. Others are bludgeoned in their early years and never recover.

He is not going into a good situation.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:21 am

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Harder to bludgeon QBs than ever before

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Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:22 am

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

conns7901 wrote:

Great decision by Kyler!

Agreed. He’s gonna be great.

Yep. Definitely another Eddie LeBaron or Davy O'Brien.

Even if he is slightly below average he will make more money than he ever would as baseball player. He wouldn't see free agency until he was 31 or 32. That is if he even made it.

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conns7901 wrote:

Not over yet.

Yes it is.

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WaitingforRuffcorn

Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:25 am

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FavreFan wrote:

Harder to bludgeon QBs than ever before

Not ones that double as running backs, and look like they are really 5'9' 190.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:48 am

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Harder to bludgeon QBs than ever before

Not ones that double as running backs, and look like they are really 5'9' 190.

If that QB is Barry Sanders he'll be fine

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Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:59 am

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FavreFan wrote:

WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Harder to bludgeon QBs than ever before

Not ones that double as running backs, and look like they are really 5'9' 190.

If that QB is Barry Sanders he'll be fine

Oh like Barry Sanders huh? That would make him the third best runner you ever saw behind Sanders and Lynch. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:20 am

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5 passes a game batted down. Guy is a midget. Rosen will have a better career.

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TurdFerguson

Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:33 am

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Seems like Arizona was in an ideal spot to trade down a time or two. I’m not sure anyone trades up for Murray. Drop down a few times and if he is still there at 10-12 grab him and bank a could 1st or 2nd rounders.

If he does he taken you roll with Rosen as if Murray was a bluff the whole time.

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312player

Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:56 am

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Good luck blocking for a 5'9" ( tops) QB that has to roll out every pass to find a window. I know you can't crush the QB anymore but he'll be hit harder than he's ever been hit. This guy is a bust.

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Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:13 pm

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312player wrote:

Good luck blocking for a 5'9" ( tops) QB that has to roll out every pass to find a window. I know you can't crush the QB anymore but he'll be hit harder than he's ever been hit. This guy is a bust.

He's 5'10''. He's gonna be Russell Wilson. Star

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Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:15 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Harder to bludgeon QBs than ever before

Not ones that double as running backs, and look like they are really 5'9' 190.

If that QB is Barry Sanders he'll be fine

Now he's also Barry Sanders? Slightly different frames. Did you expect his former head coach to say at his size it only takes a few hits to take him out?

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Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:24 pm

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Harder to bludgeon QBs than ever before

Not ones that double as running backs, and look like they are really 5'9' 190.

If that QB is Barry Sanders he'll be fine

Now he's also Barry Sanders?

According to his coach

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Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:42 pm

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I am not a believer in any of this group of first round quarterbacks. Mayfield looked good last year, which certainly helped Murray.

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Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:29 pm

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Has a team ever gone against the grain this significantly with a #1 overall pick in NFL?

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Post subject: Re: Kyler Murray

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:46 pm

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IMU wrote:

Has a team ever gone against the grain this significantly with a #1 overall pick in NFL?

They took the top rated qb #1. Not really against the grain.

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