Still defending Pace?

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the kid from Mankato who did the back flip....that's the guy that should be kicking next year.

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Pace objectively has done a terrific job. That really isn't debatable at this time. He turned around a decade long loser and has them in prime contention to contend the next few years. He seems to have mismanaged the kicker position pretty horribly and he's made some other mistakes but every GM makes mistakes, even Belichick.

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You seem to be putting a lot of faith into 1 good year.

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This season stacks up to be a gauntlet of very good opponents week in and week out. This will be the litmus test to see how good this team really is.

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Gould was cut before pace and pace did the right thing by signing the best kicker available at the time. What else was he supposed to do?

Some mistakes are not equal to others. Overpaying for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was an enormous mistake that has and will continue to cost the Bears more than other mistakes.

EDIT: Pace cut Gould

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Pace cut Gould because Connor Barth became available.

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Overpayment is accurate and it's amazing how many want to give him a pass on this one.
I think Mitch has been "decent" to date and we've yet to see his ceiling, but doesn't change the fact that he overpaid in the draft.
I will give him a pass once we hoist the Super Bowl trophy....until then....Pace overpaid.

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Gould sucked at the time of his release and was deservedly cut. He himself has said he got complacent and the move woke him to the extra work he needed to perform to kick into his 30s.

Here is the real problem:

after he cut Gould, he thought Barf was better than Elliott and Buetker, both of whom were rookie kickers sitting there as free agents available to anyone who wanted them.

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Not really. You have to remember I defended him before this 1 good year even took place. That was just validation.

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Yeah, but if they are 6-10 next year then Pace still looks to be a pretty clueless GM who was bailed out by one great trade.

You seem to like playing both sides. You can laugh at the Amos/Dix and the kicking fiasco but also act like Pace is doing a great job and the Bears are set up to be a force for the next few years.

This is the NFL. It isn't hard to turn around a bad team especially when you get a year of a player like Mack for free given that the first thing he gave up was a draft pick in this years draft.

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That's a very disingenuous way to describe the Mack trade. He paid a big price for Mack and it was worth it. The Amos/Dix thing was fine by Pace. I laugh at out of town stupid comments that say Dix is as good as Amos, but I don't blame Pace for that. Given the contract of each player it's fine.

He's fucked up the kicker position pretty badly and he probably overpaid for Mitch. Other than he's made some really good moves. I would also say recent NFL history does not indicate it's easy to go from worst to first in a division. It doesn't happen often and there are a lot of teams that have been stuck as mediocre or bad for a long, long time.

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And the Nagy hire deserves way more credit than you're giving Pace for it. You wanted John Defillipo iirc. Given how he flamed out in less than a year in Minnesota that likely would have been a disaster of a hire. Instead it looks like he got one of the best young coaches in the league.

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You would think by the way that it is described that these kickers are missing everything in practice. Pinero hit from 52 and Fry from 50+ yet Nagy is feeding into the press with his focus on the 42 yard thing. Get over it. These camp kickers seem to be doing fine.

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They will get this fixed. You fags arguing over this crack me up. Get a hobby or something.

Disingenuous? For the 2018-2019 season, Mack cost the Bears absolutely nothing. That certainly gave him quite a boost for that year. This is the first year we see the price of it.

Good to see you like the Bears giving up on Amos and getting Clinton-Dix.

Ryan Pace was also the GM during the John Fox era. Building a playoff team in year 4 of your time as GM isn't remarkable.

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Most reports from the time seem to indicate Fox was given to Pace, not that it was his hire. I think the rest of his body of work gives credence to that.

I'm just going to assume you didn't understand the point I made about Amos and Dix I thought it was pretty clear though.

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Ok, first three years don't count then.

I guess it wasn't clear. You said the Amos/Dix thing was fine by Pace.

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My bad, I thought "Given the contract of each player it's fine." was pretty clear. What I meant by that was because Amos is being paid like a top safety, and Dix is being paid like a guy off the street basically, the value each of them brings to their team respective to how much they cost is pretty equal. I don't consider that a bad thing by Pace, he's simply prioritizing his cap space elsewhere.

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Bears have other priorities. HHCD is terrible but as a plug within the Bears D he'll probably be pretty good.

apparently Chris Blewitt.

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Yup. Safety becomes kind of a luxury position when you're committing almost $10 million to the kicker position this year.

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The Bears have far too many players with hyphenated names

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What are you trying to say?

That the bears have far too many players with hyphenated names

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the gash > the dash

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