Now you're debating semantics. And you're still wrong.

No shot means it can't be done. Obviously it can if it's been done already.

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No but Jordan was only 6'4.

http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Arc ... l=GooglePM

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Okay. Enjoy proving that two point guards in the past 73 years won the finals as their team's best player.

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Didn't you predict that GS would win this year with Steph as their best player? Wasn't said win supposed to be "glorious" in fact?

For some reason you had no problem going with the PG in that one Vegan.

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I really don't care what people care or don't care about on here. Never have.

I'm merely stating a fact. I prefer to deal in those as opposed to board endorsed narratives. That was Jordan's actual height.

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We’re talking about NBA height. Nobody cares about LTG height.

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LTG had it correct as usual. Guys that know basketball know that the heights of players are almost always inflated.

Sorry to have to enlighten you on that particular fact.

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Not just hoops, it's NFL, MLB

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Not so much in football though. Maybe for QBs and receivers but from I remember they tend to represent their actual heights.

Some of the stuff they do with basketball players is borderline criminal.

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LTG is going down a very JLN road here with the fixation on height. The broader, non-JLN point is "short" vs "tall". Ignoring the past few posts because I don't want to muddy this thread like so many others have been with all this fucking literal interpretation nonsense, I'll just rephrase my point to say anyone who signs Kyrie to be the alpha will not win a championship. We already knew that because of the past two years but it's also due to what most people would say is a general principle to not have the shortest dude on your team be the best player.

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Let me ask you this and hopefully you can provide an answer.

If you are so cocksure about this then why did you pick Golden State to win it just this past year?

You stated very clearly that they would win with Curry as their best player.

You don't find that to be the least bit contradictory?

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No.

Let me ask you this: why are you morphing into jln?

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Not even close. There’s a very big difference between “no shot” and “unlikely”. Especially considering where the league is heading.

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Ok so you don't actually believe many of the things that you say. I pretty much knew that anyway.

That was a fair and legitimate question that I just posed.

You obviously contradicted yourself and hence you can't present an answer for it.

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Last time I'm addressing you ever: there are rules (short guys don't lead teams to rings) and exceptions to rules (this happens, like it happened 3 out of 73 years in the NBA.) If you don't understand that then you can't be helped. Your poor man's JLN gotcha games ain't gonna work on me.

This doesn't mean anything. Where is the league heading?

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There have only been 3 SGs that were the best player on a championship team since 1980 also. It's just as unlikely that you can win with them as the best player too.

About 3 SFs as well.

If your point is that it's best to have a big as your best then you are preaching to the choir.

I differ with FF on this. I still think the league is a big man (Center) league.

PFs really haven't won anything as the best player either Garnett (I guess) and Dirk and that's about it.

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Safe to say you have been stumped yet again. Deflections regarding JLN are pointless.

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I agree with this guy.

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I'd love to hear how it wouldn't be bad because I see it as an outright disaster and I still really like Jimmy.

Butler is a terrible fit with Paul and Harden both in terms of style and chemistry and Houston gutting their roster (at least 2 of Gordon/Tucker/Capela) to get him does not seem the least bit worthwhile. Paul/Harden/Butler is also a worse Big 3 than Lebron/AD/Kemba (or any other max guy for instance) and the Lakers will have first dibs on the spare parts pile when it comes to filling out the rest of their roster.

Finally there's a risk Butler's contract becomes as bad and unmovable on the back end as Paul's already is. Everyone has been rightly ripping Pelinka for the extent to which he mortgaged the Lakers' future to get Davis but this move by Morey would be even more desperate and short-term (and wouldn't even necessarily make them better in the short term anyway!).

Houston has to go for it now. That is the way they are constructed. "Gutting" the roster to acquire him is a drastic overstatement. Of the 3 players currently on the team only Capela is thought to be part of their long term future. Tucker is a journeyman. Gordon is a glorified 6th man on the other side of 30. They really aren't giving up that much in order to acquire someone of Butler's status. And I say this as a noted Butler detractor.

As far as the fit it can work but not if D'Antoni is the coach and Morey is the GM. Houston has to change their offensive philosophy and simply play basketball. Running an offense which places an emphasis on shooting 3's isn't a way to win a championship.

They also have to get away from running an offense that is Harden dominant. That isn't on Harden as much as it's on D'Antoni.

Houston has to go for it. This is especially so given the recent injuries to G.S. The West is wide open. Anyone claiming to know who the favorite will be is delusional. Go for it now and worry about tomorrow tomorrow.

In addition are Paul and Harden. They're stuck with Paul so it doesn't much matter if the fit is good or bad on paper. They aren't going to improve the chemistry of the team by moving him because he can't be moved. They have to deal with the combustion and hope for the best. If the Warriors can field a team with Boogie and Draymond and make it work then Houston can surely field one with Butler, Paul, and Harden.

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so they sign one max player, that gives em 5 players on the roster. They fill out the rest with mid-level/trade exceptions and veteran min guys? Prolly better off getting 2 or 3 guys like Beverley/Brook Lopez than a 3rd max guy.

It does mean something. The league is heading (not really, it's already there) to a guard dominated game.

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Laker fans are convinced Kawhi is coming.

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If the Lebron as GM model is to be believed, then they are probably seeking that 3rd max player in order to complete this latest compilation of the big 3.

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I am guessing AD got an extra 4 million more then he should have for appearing in Space Jam 2.

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No it isn't. You have been on the small ball kick for awhile now and you've been wrong about it. The Final Four teams in this year's playoffs all started traditional big man centers.

When G.S. attempted to go small with Draymond he was thoroughly dominated by Gasol, Siakam, Ibaka or whomever else you care to name.

NBA is still a big man's league. There aren't a number of elite big men currently. That's the only reason that it may look as if its shifting.

Of the top 10 NBA players currently only 2 of them are guards. How is it a guard's game with that being the case?

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Jerry West (Clips) or Masai Ujiri (Raptors) vs Rob Pelinka? Gee I wonder how that'll go for the Lakers.

In what universe do you think a center who shoots 6.5 threes a game and gets 4.9 rpg is a "traditional big man center"? That's simply nonsense. You'll continue to be wrong about this trend

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