eveyone is a guard now, just some are tall.

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Right

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I think it may end up going well. Though it does seem an anti-Kawhi move to become Lebron's scapegoat if shit goes wrong.

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I'd be surprised if the Lakers landed Kawhi. I think he's going back to Toronto and I never in a million years imagined saying that.

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Each one of the guys that I named with the exception of Kanter was a rim protector. Each one of the guys I named is 6'11 or better.

Where were all of these Draymond Green small guys that you're always talking about? In fact where the hell was Draymond Green? If the game is going oh so small then why in the hell was G.S reluctant to place him on Gasol at any point during the series?

Why were they begging for Boogie, Bogut, and Looney to play just so they'd be able to match up against Gasol?

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Sure they are.

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Ok, continue to think Brook Lopez is a traditional big man center, that the league is not centered around perimeter players currently, and that Boogie Cousins is a better defender than Draymond.

It's not worth arguing when you're this off base.

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If you don't understand that traditional big man centers pertain to things like rim protection (which Lopez is very good at by the way) then you don't understand basketball.

You've been pumping this small Ball stuff for awhile and it lacks merit.

Now you're trying to flip the argument as if I'm saying that Boogie is better defensively than Draymond. What a surprise that you'd pull that by the way.

Boogie is a better matchup on Gasol than Draymond happens to be. Obviously Kerr agrees or he would not gone with it.

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that and he gets #23:

Centers minutes for G.S. in the Finals

Looney 20.8

Cousins 18.0

Bogut. 8.9

Shouldn't Green be gobbling up a significant amount of these minutes if the league is "going small"?

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you're basing league trends on a single matchup in 1 series ?

What are these trends that you speak about? I'm specifically talking about Small Ball Centers.

Where exactly are these guys to be found? He has been pumping this "league trending" "small Ball" "Draymond Green" stuff for awhile now.

If it's as prevalent as you and him are suggesting then which teams are currently using it? (Starting centers only)

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Unless he is a retard, only way AD waives his 4 million is if Kawhi has already agreed.

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I don't like all this smoke about Kawhi and the Lakers. If he goes to the Lakers he will ruin all the goodwill he has gotten from so many and will become another Keven Durant in terms of hate.

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How is going to a team that didn't make the playoffs last year in anyway similar to going to a team that just won 73 games and made it to game 7 of the NBA finals?

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Going to form a super team with Lebron and AD. Kawhi has been built as a guy that does not need a super team. He defeats them, not joins them.

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Marc Stein making it sound like Kawhi is going to the Lakers. Would be lame as hell if he does

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He’s going to wind up with them. I think he made his mind up about this a long time ago but because of how private he is the random guessing has always had him with the Clippers or elsewhere. But he’s from LA, and there really is only one team in LA -and that’s the Lakers. He’d have done this regardless of LBJ and AD being there imo. It’s most likely what he’s wanted since he started playing basketball. I’ve kind of felt it’s been weird that people weren’t predicting this all along tbh.


And I agree that it’s fucking dumb. LBJ will ride on the backs of another couple players to increase his fugazi legacy, and that’s just one reason not to like it. ‘See, he makes everyone around him better’ lol

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As for LBJ.. I’m glad we got that 1 year of him being in the best conference on a non super team finally to dent the ‘he makes everyone better’ fallacy. Dude couldn’t even get into the fucking playoffs under those circumstances. Him making everyone around him so much better is a myth, and this is what the majority of his career would have looked like had he spent it in the Western conference to begin with without absolute stars around him.


Meanwhile.. MJ lead teams were in the playoffs almost every year and win 6 out of 6 in the strongest conference. 3 of those with only one other perennial all-star and future HoF’er with him..

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He said a few months ago he never liked the Lakers growing up. He was an AI fan.

I still think there’s a solid chance he won’t end up there.

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I know this forum has always gone over the top with the Jordan hagiography, but the idea that the East was the stronger conference while he was playing is simply too ridiculous.

I don't think anyone really knows what is going on.

Now there are reports that Kawhi and Durant may want to play together. That cant be with the Lakers. Clippers perhaps? Maybe the Knicks...but the Knicks have not been mentioned much for Kawhi.

Only thing for sure is this is going to be a crazy few weeks for the NBA

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Kawhi can team up with KD in the Paralympic Games next year.

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Jordan ran through blizzards on a torn ACL to get to the stadium. Then he dropped 76 on NYK with Anthony Mason and Charles Oakley guarding him. Plus this was back in the old days where it was legal to shiv the ballhandler in the neck, unlike these days where you basically give the ballhandler a massage. Fuck LeBron

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Vegan is taking this debate officially being over very hard

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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Wojo and Shelburne (isn't she the Lakers beat reporter?) making noise about KD and Kawhi trying in link up on the same team.

Isn't the common knock that Jordan's Finals opponents weren't that good? Now the East wasn't good either? It won't be long before the entire 90s wai filled with Jordan and a bunch of guys from a local rec league.

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I don't recall that being any kind of common knock on Jordan or the Bulls. No one considers any of those teams as weak as the early 2000s tomato cans coming out of the East for instance. I have argued that Jordan's final opponents weren't as good as any of the Golden State teams from 2016-2018, but that's trivially true and can scarcely be considered a major knock.

And regardless of where one ranks Jordan's finals opponents all time, that has little to do with which conference was tougher while he was playing. I think every team from the West he played in the finals besides the Lakers would have strolled through the teams the Bulls played in the East.

Kemba to Celtics

4 years $141 million

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