The Bears will acquire a kicker before the season opener. The Ravens appear to be a good target.

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I dont think a 91 rating today is what it was even 5 or 6 years ago.
And I hate to go all jorr on ya but ain't close to top ten in a wins metric.
And

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A 91 QB rating is very below average today. Marcus Mariota posted a 92.3 last year and was god awful. Eli Manning posted a 92.4 and was probably worse. Silly IMU

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Like losing 35-18?

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That was 4 seasons ago, and it was one game. Look at his Rating the last few years.

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Oh. Four years ago. So he hasn't played in a playoff game since then.

Thanks for proving Cousins is a bum slayer.

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I don’t need to. I watch more football than anyone on this board I’m guessing. I know who Kirk Cousins is. He’s Jay Cutler. If you put a perfect team around him he’s good enough to lose a divisional or NFCCG game. That’s his ceiling. It just so happens metrics back that up.

Or are we suddenly not counting 50 former execs and players or whatever random appeal to authority you made previously in The Athletic article spotting him at 16th in the league?

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He’s a bum slayer but Mitch needs to improve to get to that level. If Nagy and Zimmer switched teams right now Mitch would be a backup on some random AFC team by 2022.

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All that matters is what the guys in that locker room think of him...

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I get it, FF. Mitch is entering year three though, and is likely not a finished product. Its not out of the realm that he regresses, but its more likely that he progresses. Just how far he goes remains to be seen.

On the other hand, Cousins is who he is. Maybe he had a couple of moments in his one playoff start four years ago, but he has pretty much shit the bed in every big game since. As fans of opposing teams in his division, we should be ecstatic that he is the QB for the Vikes because if our teams ever play him in a must win game (like week 17 last year ), we aren't going to have much to worry about.

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This is one of those examples where stats and the eye test do not match.
Cousins is a bum slayer. Mitch shows way more upside. We've seen Cousins body of work....no thanks.

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Agreed on Cousins. I tried telling IMU this when he was thrilled with the signing.

I think Mitch will improve too but my point is I think that's a lot more tied to Nagy than his natural ability, similar to how McVay props up Goff. Not really worth debating though since it's impossible to tell for now and the foreseeable future.

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And Bellichek likely propped up Brady at least a little. Not saying that Goff or Mitch are going to have that kind of HOF career, but good for them if they get some help from their coaches.

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Brady's been propping up Belichick

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This is a debate that we will never see a true answer. I tend to see it as more slanted toward Belichick propping up Brady...we'll never truly know.

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the truth is, there are very few QB who transcend system

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Yeah I don't actually think one is much more responsible than the other. IMO they're both indisputably the best ever to do what they do and would have won multiple rings without each other.

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The great ones do.

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not even most of them. I think specifically on guys like Brady and Montana.

I think Rogers does transcend

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I think Montana did. He played well at an old age in KC. Same with Favre and Peyton. Not a doubt in my mind that Brady, who's better than all of them, would have as well if given the opportunity.

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What? Tucker? What would they give up?

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Supposedly the league is very high on the other guy they have in camp and will wait back until he is cut as Tucker is going nowhere.

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Dont we already have that guy in Pinerio?

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I seem to be the only one pushing for Piniero to get a shot.

I don't see either of the guys they have in camp currently as being a dire situation. The Bears and Nagy have really played this kicking situation poorly from a pr perspective.

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Kaare Vedvik is the guy. The league is high on him and clearly he has no shot at taking Tucker's job. I think he could be had for a 6th. The guy the Bears brought in as a kicking consultant has experience working with him too.

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They already gave up a draft pick for a kicker. Not a bigfan of giving up a second one for an idiot kicker.

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The league and players have always treated kickers like shit, yet they are one of the most important positions on the team. People are going to need to get over the archaic view of not drafting kickers, or putting in resources to acquire a solid kicker.

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Drafting kickers is a bad idea and that won't ever change. They're just too hard to project compared to other positions and you can find a great one on the scrap heap, also unlike other positions. Too many Roberto Aguayos.

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it's not comparable. the best QB/head coach combos that have been hand-in-glove are offense-driven HC's. belichick is a defensive coach. it's like saying dungy propped up manning. walsh/montana, payton/brees, reeves/elway (or shanahan). it's not the coach "propping" up the QB, it's the two complementing each other.

i agree about some QB's transcending a system, i.e. manning.

You're talking about stars. When it comes to guys like Goff and Mitch I think it's fair to say the coach is propping them up.

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