Is this board really the best arbiter for things? This is what I do know. Can you really identify more than 3 things that you have been right about since I began posting regularly on here? Please don't say stupid shit like Taj vs Josh. That is a waste of time. The only thing that you have ever been correct about is Etwaun Moore? I think I have offered 3 bets to you in the past week and you ducked all of them. After all if you aren't talking money you aint talking shit. Majority opinions of guys that you are friendly with matters not to me.

Actually start validating what you say as opposed to relying on others to make the case for you. I've "trunked" you so much that by this point I actually feel sorry for you. You have to resort to ambiguous things like "majority board opinion" to make the case for you then you are really in bad shape.

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Not all white people are the same person. I think we couldn't come to an agreement on one bet. As others can attest, I've made wagers with others around here and have been paid or done the paying in each case...mostly been paid.

You sure shit on this board's sports acumen a lot considering the volume in which you post.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

The very best of LTJO....worst #1 males Larue Martin look good ….but you played a pick up game with Larue

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

bumping cause I was right. Just as I predicted, 3-6 weeks passed and we never heard anything from Fultz. Never suited up again the rest of the year. Noted board fuckstick LTG even doubled down and said that after the PT we would next be hearing about surgery and of course that proved to be BS.

Some great hot takes in here about Trae back when he was slumping in November. LTG had his peacock feathers in full display, not so much these days when it comes to Trae.

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I guess he has gone AWOL from the witness protection program. You're batting 1 for 20. I can use an L right about now in order to remain humble

By the way Fultz will still turnout to be the better player.

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Hope Caller Bob is checking this shit out. No Great Shakes is selling snake oil again.


Mavs Luka Doncic vs Trae Young: An objective look at the numbers
by Dalton Trigg


First off, since a lot of people want to talk about Young's recent play instead of his play throughout the entire season (the ‘what have you done for me lately’ mentality), let's start our comparison there. Over the last 20 games, Young is averaging 24.7 points (44.9 FG%, 35.0 3P%), 4.9 rebounds and 9.1 assists in nearly 33 minutes per game. Doncic, over that same span, is averaging 22.6 points (41.7 FG%, 27.8 3P%), 9.6 rebounds and 6.8 assists in 32 minutes per game. When it comes to shooting efficiency, Young has been better than Doncic during that span of 20 games, with the assist totals sticking out more than anything else. However, over the course of the entire season, Doncic has still been the more efficient player, shooting 42.7 percent from the field to Young's 41.9 percent (both players are shooting exactly 32.6 percent from deep). Doncic, despite being in a shooting slump since the All-Star break, still has a higher effective field goal percentage and true shooting percentage than Young as well. As good of a surge as Young has had, he still hasn't been able to catch Doncic, nor will he, in any of the following categories this season: points per game, rebounds per game, blocks per game, overall field goal percentage, effective field goal percentage, true shooting percentage, net rating, defensive rating, usage rate and PIE (Player Impact Estimate).


When it comes to offensive rating, Young has slight advantage over Doncic (107.2 to 106.7), but Young's defensive rating is nearly four points worse that Doncic, giving Doncic the better overall net rating. According to ESPN's real plus-minus rankings (which helps determine which players are more valuable to their teams), Doncic ranks 88th in the league, while Young ranks 421st out of 513 players. When you look at the DRPM rankings (which estimates a player's on-court impact on team defense), Doncic ranks 411th, which is obviously not great, yet Young is even worse on the defensive end. In fact, Young is 'the' worst player in the league in this category, ranking dead last out of 513 players. If team performance is going to have any kind of weight in the voting process, Doncic's team is now guaranteed to finish with a better record than Young's team. And if you look at RPM wins, which estimates the number of wins each player contributes to his team's win total during a season, Doncic ranks 59th in the league (6.33 wins), while Young ranks 260th (0.70 wins).

As mentioned earlier, Young has Doncic beat when it comes to assists (2.1 more per game), but you have to imagine how much much that gap would be closed if Doncic was surrounded by better shooters. The Mavs currently have two players on their roster who shoot 36 percent or better from three: Ryan Broekhoff (42.0%) and Salah Mejri (36.7%). And Mejri has a really small sample size, only attempting 30 threes on the season. By comparison, the Hawks have five real season-long contributors who shoot above 36 percent from deep: Vince Carter (39.3%), Taurean Prince (38.4%), Dewayne Dedmon (38.2%), Kevin Huerter (37.8%) and Alex Len (36.4%). All of that might not have translated to more wins for Atlanta, but I believe it's translated to more assists for Young, regardless.

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Guess he hasn't been all that great after all.
According to ESPN's real plus-minus rankings (which helps determine which players are more valuable to their teams), Doncic ranks 88th in the league, while Young ranks 421st out of 513 players. When you look at the DRPM rankings (which estimates a player's on-court impact on team defense), Doncic ranks 411th, which is obviously not great, yet Young is even worse on the defensive end. In fact, Young is 'the' worst player in the league in this category, ranking dead last out of 513 players. If team performance is going to have any kind of weight in the voting process, Doncic's team is now guaranteed to finish with a better record than Young's team. And if you look at RPM wins, which estimates the number of wins each player contributes to his team's win total during a season, Doncic ranks 59th in the league (6.33 wins), while Young ranks 260th (0.70 wins).

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When it comes to an all encompassing stat, Real Plus Minus is the shit.

Tells a lot about his overall impact.

Sort of played out on the floor. They only won 5 more games than last year and they tanked last year.


No Great Shakes needs to pump the breaks on his future Hall of Fame induction. All Star too. No way his team will ever compete for anything with those numbers.

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He won't be the worst defensive player forever. I sense there's a purposeful molding of this kid going on. They know what they got and what they don't got. Will he be an all star? Sure, why not?

He will never be good Defensively. He has too many things that aren't correctable. They are probably hoping that he so dominant offensively that it offsets his porous defense.

Right now he is simply a guy that stat stuffs on a garbage ass squad. Those kind of guys tend to not make All Star teams.

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Trae finished his rookie season averaging 19.1ppg, 8.1apg, 3.7rpg. Only other players (not rookies) who averaged over 19/8/3 this season were these guys who you might've heard of...

Harden
Jokic
Lebron
Westbrook
Jrue
Wall

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.fcgi?id=4WyA4

Not bad for a future BUST and a guy who won't be as good as Markele Fultz.

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I like how shakes is using my pre-draft quote that I've already admitted I was way off on as a 'fuck you' to LTG.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

dude, if you had any idea how long it took me to edit that to make it fit in the signature box you would be showing more appreciation.


Don't worry, I'm going to bringing in a rotating arsenal of anti-Trae quotes for my sig, yours was the first one I saw.

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Get a damn spine why don't you?

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Are you accusing arguably the board's biggest narcissist of needing a spine?

You so silly.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

I don't see the merits of invoking my name in a sig in which he obviously is calling you out.

Has nothing to do with narcissism.

He called you out not me. As such either ignore it or go at him.

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You're the idiot he is going after. He isn't really calling me out. I've already taken the L on Trae Young, and now I'm in shakes' corner of being a believer.

It takes someone truly unaware...truly stubborn...to be fighting this battle still. Wonder who on the board fits that description.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

You really are stupid if you think someone that uses your name in something isn't calling you out.

There was no need to put my name in it and there was no need to kiss the guy's ass.

As far as admitting wrong none of you do it on anything. Stop with that. It makes you guys balls tight to have to concede a point on anything.

You in particular are way more interested in playing stupid gotcha games than anything.

For future reference if a person is referencing you that means he is referring to you. If you are too timid to challenge the guy then just ignore him

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I told you guys how good this kid could be

What's his ceiling?

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his highest ceiling is steph, but he wont get there

Fultz now healthy per report.

https://heavy.com/sports/2019/07/markel ... c-healthy/

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Mentally? That's still a hurdle he has to get over.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

I actually think that his injury was physical more than mental. Orlando is the perfect team for him. If he is any good he will display it there. They don't have a point so he should get plenty of minutes. Lower expectations in Orlando also.

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Brett Jackson vibe

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Havent we heard this before? We shall see...

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

The source is Raymond Brothers, who also said Fultz would play for the Magic last season and that didn't happen. So... Caron and you both need a better source.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

I saw a few clips of him windmill dunking about 6 weeks ago. Shoulder looked fine. If he misses another season he is probably done. 3 full NBA seasons lost are hard to make up.

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How much do you want to bet that he plays in a game before Dec.?

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