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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:01 pm 
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Griffin: I was miserable building around LeBron

New Orleans Pelicans executive vice president David Griffin detailed the challenges of his three seasons working with LeBron James as Cleveland Cavaliers general manager, saying the experience was "miserable" and questioning James' winning instinct in Los Angeles.

Griffin told Sports Illustrated for a story published Thursday that the annual challenge of building a title contender around James was too stressful, even if it did result in a championship in 2016.

"Everything we did was so inorganic and unsustainable and, frankly, not fun. I was miserable," Griffin said. "Literally the moment we won the championship I knew I was gonna leave. There was no way I was gonna stay for any amount of money."

Sources close to James told ESPN on Thursday they were "shocked" at Griffin's characterization of the superstar. James seemingly addressed the Griffin story via a tweet on Thursday without mentioning him by name.




Former NBA center Kendrick Perkins, who played with James in Cleveland in 2015 when Griffin was the GM there (and later in 2018 when Griffin no longer worked for the team), suggested Griffin should direct his disappointment at Cavs owner Dan Gilbert, not James.


Griffin and a person close to James spoke after the SI story was published, sources told ESPN, and Griffin expressed that some context was missing behind his comments. James' camp encouraged Griffin to clear up his stance on the record, sources said.

James' contract structure with the Cavs may have contributed to the "inorganic" roster construction to which Griffin alluded. Upon returning to Cleveland for a second stint with the franchise in 2014, James signed a one-year deal with a player option for the second year. In 2015, he signed a one-year deal with a player option for the following season. And in 2016, rather than pick up the option after winning the championship, he signed a two-year deal with a player option for a third season. When his option year came up on his final contract with the Cavs, James became an unrestricted free agent and signed a three-year deal with the Lakers with a player option for a fourth.

Griffin told SI that he believes James winning a title in his home state also has affected his mindset on the court and wondered whether James is more preoccupied with other priorities.

"There wasn't a lot else for him," Griffin said. "I don't think he's the same animal anymore about winning."

James may have fed into that perception during the 2017 playoffs, telling Cleveland.com he has "nothing left to prove" when reflecting on the 2016 title -- his third, to go along with his four MVP awards. However, if James was content, it hardly showed when he played all 82 games in 2017-18 for the first time in his career and enjoyed one of his finest postseason performances, leading the Cavs back to the Finals before they were swept by the Golden State Warriors.

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Still, in February -- midway through his first season with the Lakers -- James again framed his career in a way that would support Griffin's assertion that James' "animal" side might have dissipated.

"It's nothing I need to get in this league that I don't already have," James said at a shootaround in Boston. "So, everything else for me is just like icing on the cake. Even though I love the process of everything that I go through to be able to compete every single night and put teams in position to compete for championships. But there's nothing that I'm chasing or that I feel I need to end my career on."

Griffin told SI that he privately wept the night the Cavaliers won the title, saying he was so obsessed with winning that he "didn't love the game anymore."

Griffin ultimately parted ways with the Cavaliers in June 2017, with his contract set to expire at the end of that month. The Pelicans hired him this April.

Prior to the split, James endorsed Griffin's pursuit of a contract extension, telling ESPN, "It makes no sense why he shouldn't get an extension. He's pulled every move -- he's tried to make every move happen -- to better this team to be able to compete for a championship. So we wouldn't be in this position, obviously, without him and without the guys that are here -- from the coaching staff to the players to Griff. He's been a big piece of it."

Griffin told SI that being in James' orbit created a vacuum when it came to doling out due for what James' teams accomplish.

"LeBron is getting all the credit and none of the blame. And that's not fun for people," Griffin said of the challenge of working with and playing with James. "They don't like being part of that world."

A source familiar with Griffin's thinking said the Pelicans exec's intention was to refer to the media machine surrounding James and simply acknowledge a byproduct of his immense celebrity, rather than blame James for creating the atmosphere.

James and Griffin have maintained a positive relationship since their time together in Cleveland. James went public with his disappointment when the Cavaliers parted ways with Griffin, and as recently as July, James took to Twitter to promote the business of Griffin's wife, Meredith Hale-Griffin, to his more than 43 million followers.





James' teammate Kyle Kuzma told ESPN's Cari Champion on Thursday that James' offseason -- the lengthiest he's enjoyed since the Cavs missed the playoffs his season season in the league -- has given the superstar time to refocus for 2019-20.

"This offseason, you see just, people slandering his name and saying this about him, saying that," Kuzma said. "But you know, he's been super motivated this offseason working, between shooting movies he's in the gym. He's in the gym early, night, whatever. So just being locked in. That's the biggest thing ... being ready for it all."

Griffin has quickly reworked the Pelicans' roster after losing Anthony Davis by building around No. 1 overall pick Zion Williamson. Griffin said he will continue adding players if the postseason is within reach this coming season.

"People are gonna be like, 'What the f--- are they doing?'" he said. "We're trying to win basketball games!"

Information from ESPN's Dave McMenamin was used in this report.


How delusional and ungrateful is this little bitch? This bitch is nothing without LBJ - nothing. LBJ signs with Cleveland and almost leads a crippled Cleveland team to the title. Then he does in fact lead Cleveland to the title next year before once more in the finals. LBJ put Cleveland and Griffin on the map and then this bitch wants to complain about the atmosphere. Fuck you bitch, you ain't shit without LBJ. You're nothing you punk bitch. This is like Michael Jordan's errand boy complaining about how much money and attention he gets just because he's MJ's errand boy. Bitch, please. I made you.

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 Post subject: Re: Dan patriot Griffin
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:16 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Dan patriot Griffin
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Dan? Kill yourself.

David Griffin = Patriot
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 Post subject: Re: Dan patriot Griffin
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Was it easier to build around Michael Jordan or Lebron James? I think it was easier to build around Lebron James.

How about Kobe Lebron or MJ? Which was the more difficult guy to build a team around?

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 Post subject: Re: Dan patriot Griffin
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Was it easier to build around Michael Jordan or Lebron James? I think it was easier to build around Lebron James.

How about Kobe Lebron or MJ? Which was the more difficult guy to build a team around?

LeBron and Kobe weren’t half the players MJ was so I’m gonna say it was easier to build around Jordan. Grab some guys willing and able to take a punch in practice and then count your titles.

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 Post subject: Re: Dan patriot Griffin
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this guy sounds a little bitter


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 Post subject: Re: Dan patriot Griffin
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this guy sounds a little bitter


Ungrateful too. Most GM's or owners would gladly take the prime or near prime LeBron James problem. It comes with a lot of winning and Finals appearances.

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 Post subject: Re: Dan patriot Griffin
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MJ 6 rings one team James 3 rings 3 teams :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Dan patriot Griffin
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Not anything anyone didn’t assume from the outside looking in. Lebron wanting crappy player and crappy coaches on the team. Unwilling to sign long term deals prohibiting other free agents from considering the Cavs. Then Lebron gets credit for playing with the shit he basically assembled while others, including his teammates, are constantly degraded in the media saying they are holding him back.

Plus, you have to live in Cleveland.


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