I’m also curious if the September callup rule. I’d be shocked if players would give away major league service time like that. But if you are right, and Roberts rakes, it would be hard to send him to AAA at spring training to avoid the super 2 time.

According to the MLB website, only players on the 25-man roster accumulate service time. September call ups are obviously not part of the 25-man roster:



http://m.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/service-time

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https://www.royalsreview.com/2016/9/1/12704152/what-you-need-to-know-about-september-callups

This link says the 25 man roster expands such that players do accumulate service time during September. I’m going with any one on the 40 man roster can be put on the active roster. And if you are activated for the game you get service time. And I also think if you go on the DL while active you continue to accrue. For example, I think Kopech is a accruing time while he rehabs.

He isn't coming up until May 1 next year (or whenever the tolling gets them the extra year) unless he agrees to the same type of long term deal as Anderson and Eloy. I'll be interested to see what they do with Madrigal. My guess he is a guy who would agree to the contract as he is never going to be a guy who gets the outrageous contract.

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I would use him as someone that would be harder to bully into an extension. He signed for 26 million. That’s enough dough he can afford to bet on himself and go for earlier free agency.

Only fools believe the 6 year service time clause will be in the new CBA. Now if the Sox want to delay his service time, next May won't do it for them because that loophole will be closed too.

Thanks for the info. That explanation makes sense. Not sure why I always thought/assumed that September call ups didn't accrue service time.

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Yes. Thanks for that.

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This is off the top of my head....


If they come up for September call ups, they don't burn options but the time is added on to their clock. So, if Robert comes up for 10 games, it is added on to his clock. So if the beginning of the year is the starts, add 10 games to it.

I think the clock stuff is just dumb.

Everyone agrees the service time is dumb. But minor leaguers don’t get a vote. It’s in the best interest of the players association to keep it as it still benefits active members.

Like they give a fuck about young guys. They still want to get there’s.

But they are not getting there nearly as much now. They are held in minors until they are 23-25, then become free agents in their early 30s. MLB teams aren't paying for early 30s free agents at the same rate now.

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If he doesn't take the contract he is down in AAA until July to avoid super 2. Maybe even longer if they are bad again.

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Wellington Castillo is still on the major league team.

That is all.

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What?

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THe Sox need to bring up Robert, Mendrick, Collins, and Mercedes from 3A when the play-offs are done. They need to do the right thing for their fans. I say Mendrick not Madrigal because Mendrick can hit and hit for power and play 3 different infield positions and could easily replace Sanchez on the roster while Madrigal is going to be the 2b of the future.

Let the call-ups show the upcoming battle for 2nd string catcher/1B/DH between Collins and Mercedes. Mercedes can simply hit and has shown it ever since he signed a contract. He's actually hit for virtually the same stats as Robert in his minor league season.

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Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

I was watching that last night. Ozzie actually convinced Frank that his idea about keeping him down was foolish and a waste.

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My head is about to explode. People keep bringing up the service time. STOP. There will not be 6 years of service time after the CBA expires after next year. Owners will be lucky to negotiate 4. Any time down in the bushes is wasted time. God bless them that they signed Eloy but even if they didn't, all they managed to do was waste a good half year of him getting acclimated LAST YEAR. He'd have been so much better off THIS YEAR had he had a few months of experience.

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Outside of Bummer, Colume, Nova, and Giolito, thier pitching staff is all minor leaguers anyway

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Collins and Mendick expected to be the call ups today.

Play them consistently.

Otherwise there's no point.

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And Palka of course.

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What the fuck for? Fucker can't hit, maybe he can pitch!

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Dylan Covey is back.

FULL TANK MODE!

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They would be better served to bring back Matt Davidson and let him pitch.

Just mind numbingly bad stats and stupid moves to bring these guys up.

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i love it!

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did he really hit 27 HR as a rookie? And they only gave him 45 ABs this year? That's terrible management. Smacks of 1990s Cubs. You dont cut a guy's head off just because of a bad start.

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Did I read that dickhead Ricky correct, that he is only going to find 4-5 starts at catcher for Collins over the final 25 games? How does Rick Hahn come down and not have a talk to him, especially considering how Ricky misused Collins the first time he was up? I do think Mc Cann should be catching Cease, Giolito and Lopez because of defense. The other two starts out of five should go to Collins. Every at bat or inning behind the plate that Wellinton gets is a waste. He is not here next year and he is owed NOTHING by this organization in terms of playing time

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I do worry about the rebuild because the GM refuses to take the bull by the horns. He's still yanking off his coat and putting it over puddles for the owner to walk upon.

Castillo, Palka, Skole, etc shouldn't see another at bat unless it's as a pinch hitter.

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