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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:04 pm 
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Did he get hurt in the off season? In a preseason game?


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It was an injury from when he was unfrozen in Encino.

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I'm not really sure. I seem to remember that even coming into training camp there was word that he couldn't go full speed. Then he injured his ankle and there was concern he wouldn't be ready for week 1.

If I were a betting man I'd bet that he will get himself healthy and return. The retirement takes the pressure off him and the Colts to answer the question "when?"

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I'm not really sure. I seem to remember that even coming into training camp there was word that he couldn't go full speed. Then he injured his ankle and there was concern he wouldn't be ready for week 1.

If I were a betting man I'd bet that he will get himself healthy and return. The retirement takes the pressure off him and the Colts to answer the question "when?"

They are paying him in full for the year. What's going to happen is Andy will be seeing Tiger's doctor in Germany. Can't test a retired guy, right?


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He's a complicated man.

Snowboarding is an inherently hazardous activity.

It was a cry for help, no doubt. Colts should have recognized the signs.

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Based on Irsays interviews since I think Luck said he was retiring in March and they asked him to with hold the announcement until to help sell out tickets.

They aren’t going after his bonus money so it sure seems like a deal was made. I think the colts still leaked it during the game as a fuck to luck.


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Based on Irsays interviews since I think Luck said he was retiring in March and they asked him to with hold the announcement until to help sell out tickets.

They aren’t going after his bonus money so it sure seems like a deal was made. I think the colts still leaked it during the game as a fuck to luck.
Not trying to recoup $ makes the Colts look good in the public eye and in the eye's of other NFL players.

It also makes things easier should he decide to return to the team in 2020 or 2021.

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TurdFerguson wrote:
Based on Irsays interviews since I think Luck said he was retiring in March and they asked him to with hold the announcement until to help sell out tickets.

They aren’t going after his bonus money so it sure seems like a deal was made. I think the colts still leaked it during the game as a fuck to luck.
Not trying to recoup $ makes the Colts look good in the public eye and in the eye's of other NFL players.

It also makes things easier should he decide to return to the team in 2020 or 2021.
It also avoids a legal showdown about how his injuries have been handled during his time there.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
TurdFerguson wrote:
Based on Irsays interviews since I think Luck said he was retiring in March and they asked him to with hold the announcement until to help sell out tickets.

They aren’t going after his bonus money so it sure seems like a deal was made. I think the colts still leaked it during the game as a fuck to luck.
Not trying to recoup $ makes the Colts look good in the public eye and in the eye's of other NFL players.

It also makes things easier should he decide to return to the team in 2020 or 2021.
It also avoids a legal showdown about how his injuries have been handled during his time there.


Has there been a malpractice claim actually happen between a pro team? I can’t think of one. I assume the CBA has language that eliminates them.

I don’t see luck coming back. He seemed to be looking toward life after football. And more importantly maintaining a standard of living afterward.


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Has there been a malpractice claim actually happen between a pro team? I can’t think of one. I assume the CBA has language that eliminates them.
The money the Colts agreed not to go after was guaranteed against injury but not against retirement so it could have been a tricky legal situation to try and get it back if he claimed to have lifelong injuries based on the treatment they provided.

Injury settlements are incredibly common in the NFL. My guess is the NFL has no real desire to let things like this go to court.

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Based on Irsays interviews since I think Luck said he was retiring in March and they asked him to with hold the announcement until to help sell out tickets.


If that's true, I hold Luck and Irsay equally contemptible. No one should have an issue with a player retiring from the game. But the timing of this is absolutely ridiculous.

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Jaw Breaker wrote:
TurdFerguson wrote:
Based on Irsays interviews since I think Luck said he was retiring in March and they asked him to with hold the announcement until to help sell out tickets.


If that's true, I hold Luck and Irsay equally contemptible. No one should have an issue with a player retiring from the game. But the timing of this is absolutely ridiculous.


The quote was something like if you are making a huge decision you want to put it off as long as possible.

The injury he retired from seemed to be changing as summer went on and never actually had a true diagnosis. Could the whole thing have been faked?


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The injury he retired from seemed to be changing as summer went on and never actually had a true diagnosis. Could the whole thing have been faked?


Considering his previous injuries, which he came back from to have his best season last year, this one seemed absolutely minor. Feels like we are not getting the full story.

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I can completely see him being fed up with the rehab process etc. Not having known about his newborn son until yesterday I had thought to the best of my knowledge he only had some minor injury stuff this time. Having a kid and deciding you know what I am done is just fine with me. If I had millions I would. Earnhardt Jr. basically did the same thing.

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TurdFerguson wrote:
I don’t see luck coming back. He seemed to be looking toward life after football. And more importantly maintaining a standard of living afterward.


I agree. He has already made approximately $97 million dollars. He can do whatever he wants, including absolutely nothing, and he and his family can live in luxury for the rest of their lives.

In the coming years I think more players will be retiring at an earlier age than had been the norm. When you have made millions, tens of millions, or in a case like Luck, nearly $100 million before the age of 30 there aren't a lot of compelling reasons to subject yourself to that kind of physical punishement if you either don't have to or simply don't want to anymore. You can explore umpteen other career options with the benefit of having financial security while doing so.


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Doesn't Luck's dad run the XFL? That's probably where he's headed.


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Doesn't Luck's dad run the XFL? That's probably where he's headed.

Not a chance. Why would he move to a sport where he would make pennies compared to his NFL deal and still deal with all the physical abuse?

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Tad Queasy wrote:
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I don’t see luck coming back. He seemed to be looking toward life after football. And more importantly maintaining a standard of living afterward.


I agree. He has already made approximately $97 million dollars. He can do whatever he wants, including absolutely nothing, and he and his family can live in luxury for the rest of their lives.

In the coming years I think more players will be retiring at an earlier age than had been the norm. When you have made millions, tens of millions, or in a case like Luck, nearly $100 million before the age of 30 there aren't a lot of compelling reasons to subject yourself to that kind of physical punishement if you either don't have to or simply don't want to anymore. You can explore umpteen other career options with the benefit of having financial security while doing so.


At the other end of the spectrum you have a guy like Peyton Manning, who had already won a title, amassed a fortune, and had a neck that was seemingly one hit from paralysis. Funny how different the outlook on life can be.

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Doesn't Luck's dad run the XFL? That's probably where he's headed.

Not a chance. Why would he move to a sport where he would make pennies compared to his NFL deal and still deal with all the physical abuse?


Probably even more abuse than the NFL, where QBs are super-protected.

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I don’t see luck coming back. He seemed to be looking toward life after football. And more importantly maintaining a standard of living afterward.


I agree. He has already made approximately $97 million dollars. He can do whatever he wants, including absolutely nothing, and he and his family can live in luxury for the rest of their lives.

In the coming years I think more players will be retiring at an earlier age than had been the norm. When you have made millions, tens of millions, or in a case like Luck, nearly $100 million before the age of 30 there aren't a lot of compelling reasons to subject yourself to that kind of physical punishement if you either don't have to or simply don't want to anymore. You can explore umpteen other career options with the benefit of having financial security while doing so.


At the other end of the spectrum you have a guy like Peyton Manning, who had already won a title, amassed a fortune, and had a neck that was seemingly one hit from paralysis. Funny how different the outlook on life can be.

All you have to do to get a taste of what Peyton Manning's desires were is just play varsity basketball or football in high school. It's pretty goddam exhilarating, even at that level. It's a conquering heroes type syndrome that's probably in our DNA.


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Luck wouldn't have to play the whole XFL season; just a hook to get people to tune in for a few games. They could tell defenses they'll be kicked out of the league if they lay too hard a hit on Luck. Isn't the WWE still running things behind the scenes in the XFL.


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Doesn't Luck's dad run the XFL? That's probably where he's headed.

This could be the worst sports thought I've seen on this board.
Sorry mate. But that's bad.

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No way.

For 7 years very few did it better.


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No way.

For 7 years very few did it better.

6. Do simple better.

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5 and a half years

Not a HoFer.

http://www.nfl.com/player/andrewluck/2533031/careerstats

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Bob knows he’s not a HOFer. He’s just butthurt over everyone correcting his terrible Calvin Johnson take.

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No way.

For 7 years very few did it better.

Allow me to apologize to Hussra. This is now the worst sports thought I've seen on the board.

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Bob knows he’s not a HOFer. He’s just butthurt over everyone correcting his terrible Calvin Johnson take.

I agree. He needs to let that one go.

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