... super short field for one touchdown, desperation chuck-ball for another, and defense scored one.

Take a shower in lighter fluid, then have a cigarette.

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Desperation chuck?

(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky started off poorly but we don't need to start pretending one of the few great throws he made wasn't a great throw.

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And meaningless in an overall assessment of his body of work.

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Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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Yeah that is actually the way be plays. Was like that at NC. He is not going to stand back there all comfy like Marino and Brady.

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A 36 yard TD pass is not meaningless.

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No it isn't. There are a lot of valid criticisms of (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky so far. Some were still there in that game. It's unfair to get on him for how little he able to successfully go long and then when he throws a perfect pass for 35 yards we say "It was basically a hail mary".

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To you and Frank: I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is that one nice 36 yard TD pass doesn't outweigh more than 15 games of inconsistency, of failing to read defenses, of staring down receivers, of shoddy long ball accuracy, etc. We're heading into Cutler territory here if we start to say "oh, wait a minute, now THAT was a great play. Hey, maybe..." after every nice play that comes after like 20 piss poor plays. If we start to see (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky invert his own ratio of perhaps 1 good play for every 5 bad plays then I'll allow myself to believe. But I'm not holding my breath.

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Ben Simmons is a liability: check
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(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky did not have 20 piss poor plays last night. He was better than the first two games. Now, he couldn't have been much worse but he was better last night. It was not an MVP type performance, but he was still better. I'm not worried about what he did or didn't do last season. Continuing to improve this season is what I want out of Mitch.

There was some plays Mitch looked pretty bad on last night, however, some of those were due to the swiss cheese Oline he had in front of him. I don't care if you have Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady behind an Oline like that, they will look quite and at times as well.

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The problem was that people were doing that for Cutler when he was 30.

(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is inconsistent. That is obvious. The last two years he has been a slow starter too. However, last night should have given us hope that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky may be better than he was the first two games instead of having to call it a "desperation chuck" when he threw maybe his best pass of his career.

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And lets not forget, on that 36 yard TD pass, (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was under pressure and rolling to his right to avoid the pressure.

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Mitch was a good game manager last night. He hit open receivers on short passes and that TD pass to Gabriel at the end of the half was great.

He still struggled to hit anyone in stride on a ball over 15 yards.

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Dak Prescott has nearly identical production against the Redskins and is hailed for his efforts

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Only by Skip Bayless and deluded Dallas residents. Everyone else knows he's been on a bum of the week tour to this point.

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I think Rick and Frank are unwittingly entering into Good Rex Bad Rex territory here with what I see as a tunnel vision perspective on Mitch. The entire body of work matters and when you look at last night's performance against his whole career there's nothing really different: it was a swirl of bad and good. So last night was Good Mitch and we know bad Mitch is around the corner, especially against a good defense. And then we're gonna say he was bad. Then we're gonna play a cupcake and say he played good. Screw that - we need consistency and not split personality Mitch. And this defense is ready to win now - it's unfair for us to squander the defense to wait for Mitch to develop things his peers have already developed. It's not gonna happen.

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T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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Mitch is a bumslayer, nothing more. And he didn't even fill that niche particularly well last night. The Bears should've put up 50 against that defense.

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Would you rather he play bad against everyone?

I've tempered my expectations of Mitch. I never thought he would be Rodgers or Mahomes, but I thought he could be in the tier beneath them. There is still an outside chance that happens, but its not very likely at this point. So, game manager Mitch becomes acceptable because the Bears have the talent on defense and at the skill positions on offense to still be a very good football team this season. All of that becomes moot, however, of the offensive line does not improve.

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They were up by 25 points at halftime. The offense put 21 points on the board in the second quarter. They played soft on offense and defense most of the second half. The goal is to win the game, not run up the score like college. They did exactly what they needed to do in order to win the game last night after such a tremendous first half.

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But you declared him a bust because he played poorly in two games.

Also, inconsistency as a quarterback in year 3 and/or his age 25 season isn't that abnormal. He's not Mahomes. He never will be. Mahomes, barring injury, is on the path to maybe being one of the best quarterbacks of all time.

(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was better last year than Rex Grossman ever was for a whole season and that was in year 2.

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I declared him a bust after two seasons and two games. And bust is relative here: he's a bust in that he will never prove to be worth the cost of a no 2 pick and change, but he may end up as a decent journeyman.

Also, to other points made above, if Mitch started every drive on his own 20 there's no way the Bears score anything more than 14-16 on offense. Does anyone disagree? To be clear, though he was given short fields, he capitalized, so good for him. But again if he starts all those drives at the 20 there's no way we score more than 14-16.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
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Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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So Mitch is bad because he takes advantage of a short field and gets touchdowns?

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Let's be fair here - I clearly didn't say or imply that.

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You cannot declare him a bust based on last season. I'm not saying he was a deserving pro bowl quarterback but he certainly wasn't bad last year as a whole.

I disagree. I think the Bears offense figured things out and were going to move the ball pretty well. They got conservative in the second half.

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"If (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky started every drive at his 20, the offense would not have scored more two touchdowns"

I got news for you. Even if Mahomes, Brady, Rivers, Stafford, Rodgers, etc started EVERY drive at their own 20 yard line, there would be MANY games where they wouldn't put up 20 points either.

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Fine, but he's not even close to being as good as Watson at this point. That's the killer.

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They were virtually the same last season.

This year, the difference is that Watson has had two good games whereas (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has had one.

I think Watson will prove to be better than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky over the long term but the gap right now isn't that big.

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I beg to differ. Mitch doesn't inject fear into a defense. The only people who fear Mitch are sideline officials who get hit in the head by his errant deep balls.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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Sure, but us deluded Chicago residents skewer Mitch

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America thinks Dak is the 4th best QB in the league now

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I'm not so sure about that premise, especially as it relates to Mahomes and the current KC offense. They're putting up 30 against good defenses in their sleep.

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