The Trubinsky injury buys him next year and likely the year after. This was supposed to be YEAR 2 with the level 201 playbook. Even if he comes back he won't be 100% and front office will blame poor play on Trubinsky's apprehension of re-injury. Or if he changes his playing style then the company line will be his injury is limiting his strengths.

Rather than a clean break the Trubinsky issue is going to drag along like the Cutler era. By the time Trubisnky is cut the defense will be old and washed up.

A nightmare.

You are not very good at this.

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Despite the source, this is true.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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Yeah could be some truth to this.

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He'll be 100% healthy in a month..hes gonna still suck though. It is a nightmare if they keep thinking he's the franchise QB. I think Nagy pushes for a QB next year via draft or FA.

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(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky could post similar numbers to last season and the Bears would extend him.
Bears gotta be Bears. When they like a player, their performance doesn't necessarily matter.

I've seen enough. Injury or not, he's a bust. Game manager at best.

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It's not even a season ending injury and yet he gets a pass for next year because of it?

I'm going to say that has no chance of happening.

Assuming (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky doesn't come back and play much better there will be a qb competition with a free agent quarterback next year with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky having to earn an extension after that or they go for a rookie quarterback.

And for vegan, Eli will be a free agent!

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Chase Daniels has Packers fans on the run!!

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I wouldn't target Eli in the off-season, i would target him NOW.

There's something I find very astounding in your post and it's this right here: "there will be a qb competition with a free agent quarterback next year with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky"

Why are you assuming things will remain the same and that we'll have a super bowl caliber defense heading into next year as well? Do you not see that you're basically holding the entire team hostage to (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's development? That doesn't optimize the team's chances of winning this year and, like KW said, it will just mean you waste the defense. Screw (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, find a replacement now, and roll with the best QB you can find to take advantage of a great defense.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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This would be a terrific move if you want the Bears to finish at 8-8.

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Without a doubt he gets a pass. No ETA was given other than "sooner rather than later". He's going to miss at 4 weeks. Probably more like 6. Upon his return will he be 100% healthy or is it healthy enough to play?

He was injured scrambling/rolling out. That's a strength of his and which Bears fans were clamoring for Nagy to adopt more into his call sheet. But you can't have him running around with a fragile shoulder and playing surfaces worsen with the seasons changing. Now Nagy has to change game plans to de-emphasize playing to Trubsinky's strengths. How is it fair to evaluate him this year?

Hasnt it been like 6 years since Eli finished 8-8?

Defense can't do much about a pick six

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Again the question for me isn't "what can we do to get Eli in here" it's "what can we do to get a better QB than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky." You have any ideas or do you want to waste a season waiting for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky to develop things he simply doesn't have? (football literacy at a professional level, deep throw accuracy, reading defenses, progressing through reads, throwing to all sides of the field with equal accuracy, etc.). It's like expecting him to grow a third arm - it ain't happening. Can't afford to wait for the Bears to find out if he's the franchise or not, he most clearly is not.

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T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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That's how the NFL works. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is cheap now. He was decent enough last season especially for a second year player. He certainly wasn't a downgrade from pretty much any realistic option they could have gotten for this season. The big qb acquisitions outside of the NFL draft seemed to be Flacco and Keenum. Right now, the replacement options are truly horrible unless the Saints get stupid with Brees and Bridgewater and are willing to send one of them away.

Of course if a great quarterback was available to upgrade over (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky then you do it but there wasn't one available in the offseason and there isn't one available now. Even next year we are probably looking at targeting a journeyman quarterback at best unless someone like Rivers decides he wants to try a new place.

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He may get a pass for this year. He certainly isn't for next season too based on an injury that he will be playing on in November if not October.

If this injury is considered so bad that NEXT year is also a lost year then that is all the reason to bring in someone else.

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I don't think we need to target a great QB at this moment, we need to target a better QB. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is playing like a journeyman QB, in fact that's probably his future, so I disagree with the way you frame (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky as if he's self-evidently better than any journeyman QB.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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Present day Eli Manning is NOT a better QB than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

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They won't extend him. They will invoke his fifth year option, which they would have done under almost any circumstance.

They then can draft a QB with a high 2, let him sit for a year and challenge Mitch in 2021. If Mitch ends up being great by then, they have a sixth year of control with a franchise tag. If the other guy ends up better, Mitch is gone and we are in year 6 of low cost QB play

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And year 37 of the SB drought which you can fix RIGHT NOW by cutting your losses. Sorry, GD, but if you're still holding out hope that this guy is the one then you've got to put the kool aid down.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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Seems like you're putting your eggs in the (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky basket. I'm with the defense - i don't want to waste their efforts waiting for someone to develop into something he most certainly isn't.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Way to deflect!

I'm putting my eggs in the team basket. I would love the Bears to have a Mahomes, or Wilson, or Rodgers. But they don't so I will roll with what they have for now.

I will not foolishly call for the Bears to give up precious draft capital to go after a 38 year old statue of a QB whose best days are several years behind him.

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Wrong situation to be waiting on "developing" a QB. Potential all time defense saddled with a high QB draft pick who needs the playbook scaled way back. Perfectly Bears.

Still waiting for Mitch 202 to kick in.

They are going to over-value him because they like him....and extend him. They will completely ignore the fact that they over-drafted him. He'll be Kyle Orton....the defense will carry the team and they'll cite wins as to justification from him being a franchise QB.

I'm not saying the Bears won't win the SB....the defense is really fucking good to carry the team. But the spin on how great (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is as a game manager is coming. I predict (say it like you mean it) They'll extend him before the 5th year option.

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I don't think Nagy is a fan. He talks a good game because he's stuck with him for now.

I think Mitch hate has gone off the rails. He was developing nicely as last year progressed. The first two looks at him this year just happened to be the buzzsaw that is the Packers d and a traditionally tough situation in Denver's home opener.

He played well against the Redskins. I expect to see him continue to get better and be a better than competent QB.

Whatever you thought of him coming into this year is the esteem you should hold him in now.

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Exercising his 5th year option isn't a cost-efficient move. His cap hit will be over 20M+. This off-season is when that determination must be made.

If you're a rational Bears fan you obviously say fuck no to the option. But Pace is married to Trubisnky given all the resources he's sunk into him. The nightmare now is if the option is exercised and he sucks as expected.

To counter, most Mitch apologists seem to be looking at Mitch in a vacuum, as if his progress or lack thereof has no implications for the Bears' success this year. Because of the importance of his position, he can singlehandedly derail the Bears hopes this year. Remember, the best offensive player against the Eagles last year was indeed Cody Parky. And he was on the field so much only because our boy here couldn't move shit.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

The obvious play is to decline Mitch's option for 20M+ and use whatever piddly draft capital is leftover after all the trade ups to knock the Jags socks off for Foles. Jags can roll with their cheap rookie contract Minshew and escape the Foles contract.

Foles' contract isn't an albatross and fits into what you've been budgeting towards allocating for Trubinsky.

You can trust Foles to not fuck up with this defense. He's thrived under the Reid system.

Pace needs to be a man and admit defeat. Cut bait and make the right move. Super Bowl is right there within grasp if he can swallow his pride.

Concern trolling, that's some quality posting.