In your hypothetical situation, you fail to mention that the Bears did not hold a 4th quarter lead. So you can talk hypotheticals all you want. I am talking real life and I already laid out scenarios in which the Bears had the lead right up until the defense gave up a late 4th quarter TD.

Against Miami, the Bears scored 28 points in regulation. Was that enough? Against the Giants, the Bears scored 27 points in regulation. Was that enough? Sure, the offense could have done more against the Eagles, but again the Bears had a late lead and the defense allowed TWO 4th down conversions during the games final minutes. One of which ended up being the game winning touchdown.

My point is this. If you have the Bears defense on the field with a lead in a one score game with less than 5 minutes to go in the game, you better win. Under Nagy, the Bears are 0-6 in that department. So while the Bears defense is very very good, way ahead of the offense this year as I have previously stated, they are not exempt from blame.

Yet, I don't know why I am debating this with you because you are the same guy who thought that trading for Eli Manning would have fixed all of the Bears problems. Hopefully this week showed you otherwise.

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Teams are going to give up points unless you play the Jets or Bears every game. If you're going to give up points you might as well give up as few points as possible. No one does this better than the Bears.

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Not giving up touchdowns late in the 4th quarter of a one score game would be nice.

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LeBron James was the greatest player in the league and playing well in the 4th was also how he could get better.

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We're having a classic sports debate on a sports message board, don't know why you had to get snippy. We're not going to agree so this will be my last opinion here: given that we know the Bears D is already the top outfit in the league, to expect even more - yes, even to expect them to guard a 3-0 lead in the fourth (when they already guarded that lead for 3+ quarters), means you're holding them to an impossible standard. Good chat.

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I'm not expecting the Bears to shut out every opponent every game. This isn't Madden on Playstation. I have never said this either. You brought up the hypothetical field goal, while conveniently ignoring the fact that the Bears scored 28 and 27 points against Miami and NYG last year, yet still the D couldn't hold. So I will ask you again, what is the difference if the score is 3-0 or 27-24 late in the game? There is a trend of the Bears defense playing great all game, yet breaking when it matters most.

Yesterday, the vaunted Bears D got physically dominated in every single way during the 1st half of the game. How does the offense respond? By putting up 21 3rd quarter points. How did the D respond? By giving up a 93 yard TD drive with less than 5 minutes left to play.

Good chat indeed.

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Frank you aren't telling the whole story. The defense forcing turnovers is what facilitated the Bears comeback and the offense giving up turnovers is what ultimately cost the Bears the game.

Three points on a two-minute drill in the NFL is a gimme. The Raiders were playing to defend the TD, that is why there were three defenders are in the area where Daniel threw that ball. The Bears had the tie in their grasp and could've at least forced OT and poor QB play killed them.

Or they make a stop on 3rd down, or stop a fake punt, or stop the Raiders run game and get out of dodge with a 21-17 victory.

Plenty of blame to go around yesterday. MANY people have to own it, defense included.

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Getting brought down to earth a little bit will make the guys hungry. Nagy wants to win and will adjust.

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I hope. They all needed a reality check it sounds like.

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They did make a stop on third down. Then Pierre-Louis got shoved into the punter and Tabor didn't see the glaringly obvious opportunity for a fake punt on 4th and 1.

No. This loss sucks. More pissed about this one then the Packers loss.

Especially when we came back to get the lead and had it in the 4th quarter.

I wanted to beat "Chuckie" and his phony "tough guy image". I hate that guy. He's all about himself and his image. When you act like a tough guy all the time, you're not a tough guy. You're an actor.

It's not over but it's gonna be tough for the Bears in this division. Should have gotten this one to go 4-1. That would have been nice. But now it's a battle with the next stretch of games.

Both this game and the Broncos game were so fragile/official driven that I think 50/50 is probably a good split. If they did better the first half, I might be more pissed off, but you aren't going to win them all, and if you do, you delude yourself into thinking you are better than you are.

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The Bears defense would've stopped them had that interception rightfully stood and the Raiders had gotten the ball at the 40 or so. Probably would've wound up winning by one.

But the NFL makeup call ledger had to evened out and that bullshit roughing was a real killer. I have a very unsubstantiated theory that sometimes those long fields work in the offenses favour as after a couple first downs they get into a good rhythm and the defense starts to feel gassed. The Bears seem to be an exception to this rule as the longer a drive goes the more plays an offense has to run and the odds of a turnover increas. But Gruden's a clever Caller Bob and he had Carr actually take a proper dropback once the entire game and Mack almost ruined it.

Look we aren't facing a RB as good as Josh Jacobs again except for the Giants game. Gmafb Dalvin Cook, that guy the Raiders have is a stud. And Gruden isn't a fake tough guy, he brings it. That was a physical tough football team that was very eager to hit the Bears specifically in the jaw.

It was GLORIOUS.

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You're right about Gruden. I bet he actually practices his facial expressions in the mirror.. He's really a fake tough guy.

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Bears can't win the division. It's pretty simple. Barring a QB injury for Green Bay, obviously.

So the best they can do is a wild card. I'm ok with any postseason for them, but this is a bad offensive team and that will not change. It just won't.

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They have a great shot at winning the division

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I haven't watched any of the games closely enough to tell if this is the case, but I kind of wonder whether Pagano has been more conservative late than Fangio was last year. Pagano was routinely roasted as one of the worst in-game decisionmakers in the league while he was a head coach and it's easy for me to believe he's going too conservative on these late drives the team is giving up.

I think Pagano has been way better.

It is too bad that that kind of penalty cannot get reviewed because it was clearly obvious that he didn't "run into the kicker". If that was reviewed properly, the Bears have the ball and Oakland had only one time out left. At a minimum, that would have taken at least three minutes off of the clock even if the Bears didn't make a first down. If they made one first down, the game would have been over. That penalty did cost the Bears a much better chance to win that game. Another complaint. Why wasn't there any discussion about that bogus penalty call when it happened? I know...…. Because the bias of the broadcast crew is why.

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Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

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I think there has to be at one move this week to send a message that the status quo is not ok. It really should happen on the line and I'm afraid it has to be with Long. It seems like he is hurt, anyway so it doesn't have to be a demotion.

I think there is a lot of merit to signing Ben Watson who was just recently released by the Pats. He would probably be their best TE, even at 38. He certainly could be no worse of a blocker.

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I thought Holtz was a blocking TE ?

Once Mitch is healthy we'll be rollin

With Bray making his way back to the practice squad it sounds like (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky will start

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Just wait til Shaheen wakes up.

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