Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

If you take Mack off this team they are 7 or 8 wins last year and 7 or 8 wins this year. I don't like Pace, I'm moving quickly into the not liking Nagy. It made no sense at all to draft Mitch over Watson or Mahomes.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

Also if you fuck someone like they are a millionaire they might go try to be one.

It made no sense to take 198 other players before Tom Brady. If a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass on the ground when he hopped.

Yes, if you take the best player off of any team they are going to be worse.

Every meathead Bears fan always knows everything well after the fact. 'Dey shoulda done dis, or dey shoulda done dat' is a popular refrain in this city.

This guy is already one of the best Bears posters here.

Thanks. I just try to call it like I see it. You may not always agree but I welcome good, respectful, debate. I live for talking football!

Thanks. I just try to call it like I see it. You may not always agree but I welcome good, respectful, debate. I live for talking football!

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

Thanks. I just try to call it like I see it. You may not always agree but I welcome good, respectful, debate. I live for talking football!

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

Interestingly enough, Haskins and Murray would both now qualify with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky so GM's don't seem scared by it.

Didn't Haskins start one season as a freshman? Think he's got about twice as many starts in college as Murray and Mitch.

He didn't start any games as a quarterback as a freshman but he did play. He only had 57 pass attempts the whole season.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

Well not trying to root my own horn, but I personally wanted Watson. But I'll also admit I didn't boo the pick like the majority of Meathead fans. I was just thrilled to have a QB period. Because I knew Mike Glennon wasn't any long term answer. I was never more embarrassed for my fellow Bears fans when almost every single Bears fan I talked to at the draft wanted Jamal Adams, lol.

To be fair, Adams has turned out to be a pretty good player.


On topic.. I can’t disagree with too much of your OP.. tho I understood the decision to draft a QB, I wasn’t crazy about Mitch. Watson was the guy I was hoping they would grab at the time if they were going to grab a guy (tho I wasn’t big on Watson right after the college season came to a close.. I warmed up to him). I didn’t hate the Mitch pick at the time either, as I understood what was going to happen before the draft and made peace with it.

Crazy that there are actual GMs out there willing to risk it all on a guy like (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky who started 13 games against teams like Wake Forest over Watson's like 30 games against teams like Alabama in January. .

They played in the same conference

There were significant concerns about Watson's health with multiple knee injuries.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

They didn't even scout Mahomes.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

How ya know this?

Heard another awesome chat between DP and some NFL scout guy this morning about how the ONE YEAR WONDERS at QB tend to go higher than the guys who played longer. Pretty backwards, but that's the NFL for ya.

(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky went ahead of guys like Watson and Mahomes who played alot more snaps than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky did.

Kyler Murray. 1 year wonder. Now granted he has looked ok so far but only because he's in the same offense he ran in college. If he was in Haskins offense in Washington, he'd be just as lost as Haskins is.


Mitch is not built to be a game-manager type QB, so they should just let him sling it and see what happens, since the offense couldn't look any worse than it does now.


Take this year in college ball. It's such a what have you done for me lately biz. 3 months ago Trevor Lawrence was a man among boys. Now after slowing down a bit, if Joe Burrow (the current flavor of the week) and TL came out today, Burrow would probably go ahead of TL.

Crazy.

Crazy that there are actual GMs out there willing to risk it all on a guy like (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky who started 13 games against teams like Wake Forest over Watson's like 30 games against teams like Alabama in January.

So I think we can assume that Paces thinking was that Mitch had the higher ceiling. But that's sort of boloney, because the coaching and development players get in the NFL is far more in-depth than what they got in college. So if Watson was already better than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky in college, it only makes sense that he would also be better in the NFL with good NFL tutelage.

I guess Pace figured Watson and Mahomes would be coached by Lloyd and Harry from Dumb and Dumber and Mitch would flourish under the genius that was Dowell Loggains.

Holy crap.

Then Pace hires Matt ARENA LEAGUE Nagy, thinking he's the QB whisperer to take (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky to that elite level. But what the NFL world has figured out is that you could hire the ghosts of Air Coryell and Bill Walsh to mentor (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and he still ain't gonna match the talent of Watson or Mahomes. He didn't in college and he can't now. Developing a great QB isn't about throwing the ball 50 times a games. But somehow Nagy sold Pace on that. Great QBs are made from WINNING first and foremost. And the only way the Bears offense can win right now with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky at the helm is a formidable ball control run game where (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky just manages the game and doesnt turn the ball over.

Hes not ready to be Watson or Mahomes. And he probably never will be.

So if Pace gets the chance to draft either TL or the 1 year wonder in 2021...I hope he goes with the PROVEN guy this time.

Though frankly he should be fired before we have to draft another QB high because the one thing a GM absolutley CANT miss on is QB. And Pace has been missing on QBs since the day he was hired in 2015.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

He's throwing short passes, he's not throwing downfield.