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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:59 am 
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Tomorrow is winnable I think with Kamara and Brees out. Bridgewater is playing on a knee that could literally crumble at any moment so I'm not sweating him.

Do we stay with 4'11 Daniel who is healthy?

Or roll with Turdbustky who has one good arm?

I hate to say it, but I think the smart play is to roll with Daniel for one more week. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky may look ready, but that fall he took was nasty and I think it needs one more week of healing to minimize the risk of more damage. It's a long season. The season won't be won or lost tomorrow.


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That good arm is still pretty bad.


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They shouldn’t rush Mitch back, if that’s what they’re doing. But if he really is legit ready then he’s the better option between the two.


Play calling has looked no different with Chase out there so the myth about ‘more of the playbook being available’ doesn’t mean anything at this point. If Mitch really is ready, then Mitch needs to be the one out there.

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That good arm is still pretty bad.




His arm is fine, it’s his decision making that’s not.

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If he needs to knock off rust then this is arguably the best game to do it in the next 5 weeks.

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The next 5 weeks are brutal for the Bears while the Packers in Vikings will dodge the Mahomes bullet

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Both are bad options. Even with Kamara out this game is still going to be hard to win because the Saints' defense has been very good the past four weeks, and our offense sucks. Once again, the defense will be relied on to win the game and score points.

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And kind of off topic but TS got me thinking about it so I fired up some highlights on the YouTube..


.. he didn’t have a great career but my goodness could Jeff George throw the damn ball. One of the best arms I’ve ever seen, shame the rest of the package never amounted to much. He also took a damn beating as his career went along..

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And kind of off topic but TS got me thinking about it so I fired up some highlights on the YouTube..


.. he didn’t have a great career but my goodness could Jeff George throw the damn ball. One of the best arms I’ve ever seen, shame the rest of the package never amounted to much. He also took a damn beating as his career went along..


He had that year with the Vikings.

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And kind of off topic but TS got me thinking about it so I fired up some highlights on the YouTube..


.. he didn’t have a great career but my goodness could Jeff George throw the damn ball. One of the best arms I’ve ever seen, shame the rest of the package never amounted to much. He also took a damn beating as his career went along..


He had that year with the Vikings.




They didn’t win many games that year if I recall..


I think he was technically the 1st modern (well modern for my age group) gun slinger with Favre right on his heels.. maybe a guy like Bobby Douglass would be the 1st (a bit before my time tho)


George made some incredible throws in his time tho. Only a handful of players in NFL history could make throws like that.. and even fewer on a semi-consistent basis (like Favre, Rodgers, Mahomes..)


Jeff just never truly realized his potential and you could maybe argue never really had a coach that could get a handle on him and coach him up and put together the right offense/scheme around him.


In any event, one of the best ‘arm talents’ I’ve seen in my football watching life.

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Arm strength is overrated. Jeff George was never that good at playing QB just like Jay Cutler or Kordell Stewart.

If physical tools were all that mattered, the NFL and NBA would be littered with Olympic athletes.


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Arm strength is overrated. Jeff George was never that good at playing QB just like Jay Cutler or Kordell Stewart.

If physical tools were all that mattered, the NFL and NBA would be littered with Olympic athletes.




No one here is saying George was great -his potential made/makes him interesting tho- same goes for Jay. Stewart isn’t a good mention here imo as he never really made incredible throws where he’d thread the needle or drop the ball in a spot that just made you say ‘damn’.. guys like Cutler and George would flash and have huge games once in a while. Stewart was a gifted athlete who would do incredible things once in a while connected to that.


As for arm strength bring overrated? I don’t agee at all, I can’t think of too many great QB’s that don’t have good arm strength. If arm strength is all you have, then yes, you have a point, but that wasn’t all guys like Cutler and George had.


‘Arm talent’ doesn’t just mean ‘arm strength’, it’s touch, release, angles, accuracy, and yes.. strength too. George and Cutler both had ‘arm talent’ -it’s tyeir decision making that was their biggest issue. Stewart was more of an ‘arm strength only’ guy.

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There's a reason I named my podcast after "The Golden Arm."

Jeff George threw the best looking pass in the history of mankind.

Name the throw. Jeff could make it.

80yd bomb? DONE.

70yd BULLET right between his receivers numbers? DONE.

5yd fade to the corner? DONE.

2yd arcing screen pass? DONE.

And when Lovie Smith didn't give him one snap over Chad freaking Hutchinson at the end of the '04 season, I knew from that moment on Lovie didnt have a clue about QBs. He then spent the next 8 seasons proving me right.


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And when Lovie Smith didn't give him one snap over Chad freaking Hutchinson at the end of the '04 season, I knew from that moment on Lovie didnt have a clue about QBs. He then spent the next 8 seasons proving me right.


I forgot that Jeff George was ever on the Bears.

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Mitch at least takes care of the ball and can make the odd play or two. Daniel throw three picks against the Saints is an absolute death sentence. I'll take most of the drives ending in punts and making the Saints beat our defense over the Saints starting multiple drives deep in Bears territory.


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NME wrote:
rajingsoul wrote:
Arm strength is overrated. Jeff George was never that good at playing QB just like Jay Cutler or Kordell Stewart.

If physical tools were all that mattered, the NFL and NBA would be littered with Olympic athletes.




No one here is saying George was great -his potential made/makes him interesting tho- same goes for Jay. Stewart isn’t a good mention here imo as he never really made incredible throws where he’d thread the needle or drop the ball in a spot that just made you say ‘damn’.. guys like Cutler and George would flash and have huge games once in a while. Stewart was a gifted athlete who would do incredible things once in a while connected to that.


As for arm strength bring overrated? I don’t agee at all, I can’t think of too many great QB’s that don’t have good arm strength. If arm strength is all you have, then yes, you have a point, but that wasn’t all guys like Cutler and George had.


‘Arm talent’ doesn’t just mean ‘arm strength’, it’s touch, release, angles, accuracy, and yes.. strength too. George and Cutler both had ‘arm talent’ -it’s tyeir decision making that was their biggest issue. Stewart was more of an ‘arm strength only’ guy.


I did not see 'arm talent.' My bad.

Accuracy is very important, as is touch and all those other factors. I agree that arm strength is great to have but it's really a bare minimum thing for me. If a guy has a below average to average NFL arm, then you look at everything else you mentioned plus a slew of other things. Arm strength beyond average is just gravy.

More than anything I just dont think GMs should fall in love with a rocket arm and miss the fact that the guy is not a good QB. It happens less now than it used to.


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JeffGeorgeWorshipPodcast wrote:
And when Lovie Smith didn't give him one snap over Chad freaking Hutchinson at the end of the '04 season, I knew from that moment on Lovie didnt have a clue about QBs. He then spent the next 8 seasons proving me right.


I forgot that Jeff George was ever on the Bears.

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