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Private school teachers are still notoriously underpaid compared to public. That's why they all coach a sport or club or whatever.

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When you add in all of the other fees you're over $40k for high school after likely paying close to $100k for grade school. No guarantees come with that money.

Go to public school. Go to church on Sunday. Put $10k a year into a fund for your kid to use after college when he has the same job he would have had anyways.


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Nope.

Church on Sunday doesn't provide the why.

Catholicism is a sacramental religion. Most of the sacraments are completed by eight grade (things like marriage or orders still outstanding) so technically you have received your complete catechism. In high school you really start to dig into theology and philosophy. You read the criticisms, heresies, refutations and apologies. You also become part of a peer community of faith.

If you are going to catholic high school because you believe in the religious based education, as many if not most do, you might be better off sending your kid to public grade school and saving for high school. At the grade school level there is training available even if you don't attend a school. After grade school, you have to search for it or you may be on your own.

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When you add in all of the other fees you're over $40k for high school after likely paying close to $100k for grade school. No guarantees come with that money.

Go to public school. Go to church on Sunday. Put $10k a year into a fund for your kid to use after college when he has the same job he would have had anyways.


Yep!


Nope.

Church on Sunday doesn't provide the why.

Catholicism is a sacramental religion. Most of the sacraments are completed by eight grade (things like marriage or orders still outstanding) so technically you have received your complete catechism. In high school you really start to dig into theology and philosophy. You read the criticisms, heresies, refutations and apologies. You also become part of a peer community of faith.

So no one who didn't go to Catholic school understands Catholicism?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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When you add in all of the other fees you're over $40k for high school after likely paying close to $100k for grade school. No guarantees come with that money.

Go to public school. Go to church on Sunday. Put $10k a year into a fund for your kid to use after college when he has the same job he would have had anyways.


Yep!


Nope.

Church on Sunday doesn't provide the why.

Catholicism is a sacramental religion. Most of the sacraments are completed by eight grade (things like marriage or orders still outstanding) so technically you have received your complete catechism. In high school you really start to dig into theology and philosophy. You read the criticisms, heresies, refutations and apologies. You also become part of a peer community of faith.

So no one who didn't go to Catholic school understands Catholicism?


"Understands" is a conclusion.

I think there is some ignorance but for personal intellectual curiosity.

I don't think the average kid is picking up Aquinas but for encouragement,

I passed the states test and the constitution quiz before I graduated from grade school. I knew everything the powers that be deemed I needed to know at that time. I reached a baseline. That was hardly all the end of my education in history but I did have the tools to operate in the world if it were

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Catholicism is a sacramental religion..

When Father McFeely sticks his finger in little Billy's asshole, what sacrament is that?


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You asked me what I think is best for Caller Bob. Six months, under observation, in the best hospital you can find.

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You asked me what I think is best for Caller Bob. Six months, under observation, in the best hospital you can find.


There are some who argue that Exorcist III is the superior horror movie to Exorcist I. In III, Damien is still alive, possessed and a locked up serial killer.

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I passed the states test and the constitution quiz before I graduated from grade school. I knew everything the powers that be deemed I needed to know at that time. I reached a baseline. That was hardly all the end of my education in history but I did have the tools to operate in the world if it were
That's exactly the point though. Sunday school + church gives you the tools to operate in the world without going to Catholic school if you so choose. It's a baseline you can expand upon later in life.

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Fr. Damien Karras, SJ wrote:
You asked me what I think is best for Caller Bob. Six months, under observation, in the best hospital you can find.


There are some who argue that Exorcist III is the superior horror movie to Exorcist I. In III, Damien is still alive, possessed and a locked up serial killer.



That wasn't really me. The Brad Dourif looking Gemini Killer had possessed me. Those were dark years.

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good dolphin wrote:
There are some who argue that Exorcist III is the superior horror movie to Exorcist I.

Those people would be retards.

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In III, Damien is still alive, possessed and a locked up serial killer.


Isn't that The Omen?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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I passed the states test and the constitution quiz before I graduated from grade school. I knew everything the powers that be deemed I needed to know at that time. I reached a baseline. That was hardly all the end of my education in history but I did have the tools to operate in the world if it were
That's exactly the point though. Sunday school + church gives you the tools to operate in the world without going to Catholic school if you so choose. It's a baseline you can expand upon later in life.


Oh, I thought you were talking about high school, as that is the topic in this thread and you gave no indication you were referencing something else.

Yes every parish has catechism for those (not just children) looking to progress sacramentally. You quoted the less relevant paragraph. I addressed the topic in the same post from where you quoted

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In III, Damien is still alive, possessed and a locked up serial killer.


Isn't that The Omen?


Damien is both Fr. Karras first name in The Exorcist and the antichrist child's name in The Omen series.

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There are some who argue that Exorcist III is the superior horror movie to Exorcist I.

Those people would be retards.


The internet is a playground for the facile mind

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good dolphin wrote:
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I passed the states test and the constitution quiz before I graduated from grade school. I knew everything the powers that be deemed I needed to know at that time. I reached a baseline. That was hardly all the end of my education in history but I did have the tools to operate in the world if it were
That's exactly the point though. Sunday school + church gives you the tools to operate in the world without going to Catholic school if you so choose. It's a baseline you can expand upon later in life.


Oh, I thought you were talking about high school, as that is the topic in this thread and you gave no indication you were referencing something else.

Yes every parish has catechism for those (not just children) looking to progress sacramentally. You quoted the less relevant paragraph. I addressed the topic in the same post from where you quoted

The point is you have two choices.

An extra $40k and more if you went to Catholic school your whole life or a head start on the "why" of your religion that can be supplemented by Sunday school + church and then further study as an adult if you choose to.

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Jaw Breaker wrote:
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In III, Damien is still alive, possessed and a locked up serial killer.


Isn't that The Omen?


I'm fairly certain this guy was a Franciscan:

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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I passed the states test and the constitution quiz before I graduated from grade school. I knew everything the powers that be deemed I needed to know at that time. I reached a baseline. That was hardly all the end of my education in history but I did have the tools to operate in the world if it were
That's exactly the point though. Sunday school + church gives you the tools to operate in the world without going to Catholic school if you so choose. It's a baseline you can expand upon later in life.


Oh, I thought you were talking about high school, as that is the topic in this thread and you gave no indication you were referencing something else.

Yes every parish has catechism for those (not just children) looking to progress sacramentally. You quoted the less relevant paragraph. I addressed the topic in the same post from where you quoted

The point is you have two choices.

An extra $40k and more if you went to Catholic school your whole life or a head start on the "why" of your religion that can be supplemented by Sunday school + church and then further study as an adult if you choose to.


Rephrase that into something coherent and I can address it.

Yes, there is catechism.

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good dolphin wrote:
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I passed the states test and the constitution quiz before I graduated from grade school. I knew everything the powers that be deemed I needed to know at that time. I reached a baseline. That was hardly all the end of my education in history but I did have the tools to operate in the world if it were
That's exactly the point though. Sunday school + church gives you the tools to operate in the world without going to Catholic school if you so choose. It's a baseline you can expand upon later in life.


Oh, I thought you were talking about high school, as that is the topic in this thread and you gave no indication you were referencing something else.

Yes every parish has catechism for those (not just children) looking to progress sacramentally. You quoted the less relevant paragraph. I addressed the topic in the same post from where you quoted

The point is you have two choices.

An extra $40k and more if you went to Catholic school your whole life or a head start on the "why" of your religion that can be supplemented by Sunday school + church and then further study as an adult if you choose to.


Rephrase that into something coherent and I can address it.

Yes, there is catechism.
Don't spend 6 figures on a Catholic education when you can still reach the same level by early adulthood and have a 6 figure gift from your parents to go with it.

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OK.

It doesn't cost six figures to go to any parish grade school for eight years that I'm aware of.

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OK.

It doesn't cost six figures to go to any parish grade school I'm aware of.
I am pretty certain if you go from K-12 for Catholic school you are paying at least $100k.

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OK.

It doesn't cost six figures to go to any parish grade school I'm aware of.
I am pretty certain if you go from K-12 for Catholic school you are paying at least $100k.


You certain?

I mean, it's kind of ridiculous that YOU would tell ME with such certainty on this topic but I'm not all knowing so I'll ask again: you certain?

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You're shelling out about 40 grand for grade school (K-8).

High school would probably be another 40 more.

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OK.

It doesn't cost six figures to go to any parish grade school I'm aware of.
I am pretty certain if you go from K-12 for Catholic school you are paying at least $100k.


You certain?

I mean, it's kind of ridiculous that YOU would tell ME with such certainty on this topic but I'm not all knowing so I'll ask again: you certain?

The numbers posted here for high school seem to be between $8k and $13k a year for four years of high school. Even if grade school is cheaper you are still approaching $100k over those 13 years if you aren't going over it.

But hey, maybe it's only $90k so I'll change it to high 5 figures or 6 figures if that is the point you are getting at.

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OK.

It doesn't cost six figures to go to any parish grade school I'm aware of.
I am pretty certain if you go from K-12 for Catholic school you are paying at least $100k.


prek-8 will be around 40k in total. For two kids probably around 60-65k. We if you had an unwritten rule at our school if you had more than 3 in the school you did not pay for the additional siblings outside of fees.

9-12 40-45k for one.

Unless you are at a place like Ignatius that charges almost 20k.

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You're shelling out about 40 grand for grade school (K-8).

High school would probably be another 40 more.


yes.

Now, you CAN pay more. A place like Hardy Prep could take you to that 100K range but the education itself is so far beyond what you are getting at the average grade school of any stripe that you are paying for the education and they are throwing in the catechism for free

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So is the argument that you should be told how to spend your money? Or is it to not spend it with the Catholics?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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OK.

It doesn't cost six figures to go to any parish grade school I'm aware of.
I am pretty certain if you go from K-12 for Catholic school you are paying at least $100k.


You certain?

I mean, it's kind of ridiculous that YOU would tell ME with such certainty on this topic but I'm not all knowing so I'll ask again: you certain?

The numbers posted here for high school seem to be between $8k and $13k a year for four years of high school. Even if grade school is cheaper you are still approaching $100k over those 13 years if you aren't going over it.

But hey, maybe it's only $90k so I'll change it to high 5 figures or 6 figures if that is the point you are getting at.


The point is that you are muddling things so that it cannot be addressed properly. I don't think you are even clear what you would like to argue.

If your point is nothing more than catholic education sucks, well OK. I don't think that's your point.

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good dolphin wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
OK.

It doesn't cost six figures to go to any parish grade school I'm aware of.
I am pretty certain if you go from K-12 for Catholic school you are paying at least $100k.


You certain?

I mean, it's kind of ridiculous that YOU would tell ME with such certainty on this topic but I'm not all knowing so I'll ask again: you certain?

The numbers posted here for high school seem to be between $8k and $13k a year for four years of high school. Even if grade school is cheaper you are still approaching $100k over those 13 years if you aren't going over it.

But hey, maybe it's only $90k so I'll change it to high 5 figures or 6 figures if that is the point you are getting at.


The point is that you are muddling things so that it cannot be addressed properly. I don't think you are even clear what you would like to argue.
I don't know how I can be more clear.

Go to public school. Go to Sunday school. Go to church. Give your kid the money you would have spent on private school upon graduation of college and let them catch up on the missed religious materials.

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