So about $100k without financial assistance? That just tuition, right? You have embroidered uniforms and other out of pocket cost as well?

In my world if you have the resources or if your child is receiving a world class education then it's probably worth it. IF they can get the same or a better education from another neighborhood school then I'm not so sure it would make sense to me.

That being said I'm confident that anyone spending anywhere in the area of $100k or more are doing what they believe is best for their kid(s).

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So Ignatius only charges $20k for 4 years? That sounds like a bargain.

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Yeah you have uniforms, fundraising requirements, sports and other extra-curricular activities as extras too.

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I think it's roughly equivalent to a public school education depending on the city/neighborhood you live in. This assumes that a person who can drop $80k or more on private school can also afford a house with a decent to good school system.

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Smartest way to spend your money to get your child multiple educations.

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There's way more to it than just a Catholic education though. There are a handful of Chicago Public Schools where you can get an education equal to or better than you can at Fenwick or St. Ignatius. What you can't do at those schools is forge the same type of lifelong bonds that help you get as rich as good dolphin, Seacrest, Telegram Sam, and Mike Madigan.

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like I said, muddled

but I'll try

grade school, high school, catholic teaching, generally superior education, diminished career earnings justify early investment, deeper understanding of faith valuable in itself to some, most learning of any kind done young

like an IN/XS or Dylan video

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20k a year. But you already knew that.

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Why do you feel it is generally a superior education? Why does public school hurt your career earnings?

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This! That's not the case with every private school though.

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Moving to the suburbs is an option. But if you live within Chicago, there are very few public schools that provide the same type of education that St. Ignatius does. And none that provide the same kind of connections/social capital.

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True. I went to one of them!

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In high school? Because they are.

But I don't have facts. Do you?

I could take my experiences in the specific but that wouldn't be fair as they were not average and you don't accept many of the propositions about it anyway.

I'll look at it purely from an economics perspective, why would a person ever pay for catholic education?

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The only Fenwick guy I ever worked for had me perp walked out of headquarters with an armed guard as my escort.

And my seven year old Pathfinder is not a new Mercedez like you are driving.

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Did you list them or order of how corrupt they are?

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Loyola academy is surrounded by the finest public high schools in the country and yet they turn applicants to the school away. Why? Are these leaders in industry dumb when it comes to their children's education?

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Despite not being Catholic I would send all of my kids to St Ignatius for the reasons JORR mentioned if I could afford it. I peaked at it for my youngest daughter but went the big fish in a little pond route. I personally can't see the cost benefit for most other private schools.

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Yes, there are plenty of things that show that it is factors like family income level and other factors are far more important than private school vs public school. Pretty much every study that has shown that private school education increases earnings ignores the factors of selection for private schools that skew the numbers.

I'm not really sure why that is a question for me to answer.

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Better athletic teams at Loyola.

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Well, it's drawing from the City as well as from Catholic families on the North Shore. But I'd argue it's unnecessary to attend Loyola when you have New Trier.

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Ironically, Rick would have fit right in at St. Ignatius.

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I didn't go through it but CPS has some high quality schools too. If St. Ignatius is the best private school in Chicago then it really should be compared to the best public school in Chicago.

I understand the connections part. You are buying in to meet rich kids. However, that assumes you want to live your whole life in the areas where people would care about St. Ignatius. I've never lived in a place where St. Ignatius would give me any sort of advantage in terms of connections/social capital.

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But would you argue that there is no difference in the education between the two schools?

Their missions alone make them radically different.

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My guess is those leaders in industry drop more than the cost of tuition on a weeks vacation in the summer.

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I would say the education is superior at New Trier. If you want religious indoctrination, obviously you choose Loyola and spend an additional $50,000 on top of your already high taxes. Those people can afford it.

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That just means that the even more professionally accomplished are the dumbest when it comes to their children's education.

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Rich don't stay rich by giving their money away.

Why would they pay for their kids to attend Loyola when their nationally ranked public school is free?

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We have never sent a child to a private school in the hopes of them making social connections.

I personally find that thought to be utterly ridiculous.

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of course you have, you were just ignorant of it

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I agree, I'd like to keep this purely to valuing catholic education.

The problem is this, you are paying the price for a private school as well as a catholic school.

If there weren't catholic high schools but a system of continued (beyond 8th grade) catholic education, I'd pay for that

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