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I'd say they get 25-50? I'd think the bonds would be even stronger for ex pat types, as they are looking for a little piece of home.
Well, I guess that justifies everything.

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Running things, no. I bet if I called the school and asked for the NY alum pres because I was moving and wanted a lead on employment it would be an effective move.
Maybe but that's a pretty low bar. When I moved out to NY we got multiple contacts from people I knew too.

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I think the discussion needs to be bifurcated because both points traditionally are a burr in Boilers bottom and they end up getting combined:

-private education
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I might not pay for private education. I would still pay for education.



You could send your kids to Parker or Latin. That's really rarified air. There aren't many middle class kids at those places. Maybe a few on scholarship.


My brother was looking at setting his kids up at Latin as it was “near” his home. The tuition number he tossed at me was just insane but couldn’t get in so it didn’t matter. Wouldn’t look at Parker as he has some bad memories apparently. In the end moved out of area so it doesn’t matter but I couldn’t get over the cost. For elementary school.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
I think the discussion needs to be bifurcated because both points traditionally are a burr in Boilers bottom and they end up getting combined:

-private education
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I might not pay for private education. I would still pay for education.



You could send your kids to Parker or Latin. That's really rarified air. There aren't many middle class kids at those places. Maybe a few on scholarship.


My brother was looking at setting his kids up at Latin as it was “near” his home. The tuition number he tossed at me was just insane but couldn’t get in so it didn’t matter. Wouldn’t look at Parker as he has some bad memories apparently. In the end moved out of area so it doesn’t matter but I couldn’t get over the cost. For elementary school.



High school is almost $40K with all fees included.

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My memory was expect higher as there are other expectations. Also, his kids are both under 5 so expect inflation. I’m sure he will find something reasonable out in Boston :lol: :lol:


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good dolphin wrote:
I think the discussion needs to be bifurcated because both points traditionally are a burr in Boilers bottom and they end up getting combined:

-private education
-catholic education

I might not pay for private education. I would still pay for education.



You could send your kids to Parker or Latin. That's really rarified air. There aren't many middle class kids at those places. Maybe a few on scholarship.


My brother was looking at setting his kids up at Latin as it was “near” his home. The tuition number he tossed at me was just insane but couldn’t get in so it didn’t matter. Wouldn’t look at Parker as he has some bad memories apparently. In the end moved out of area so it doesn’t matter but I couldn’t get over the cost. For elementary school.



High school is almost $40K with all fees included.


Lab is $34,500 for K-8

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My memory was expect higher as there are other expectations. Also, his kids are both under 5 so expect inflation. I’m sure he will find something reasonable out in Boston :lol: :lol:



Lot of choices out there! Noble and Greenough School- more than $50,000 a year.

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My memory was expect higher as there are other expectations. Also, his kids are both under 5 so expect inflation. I’m sure he will find something reasonable out in Boston :lol: :lol:



Lot of choices out there! Noble and Greenough School- more than $50,000 a year.


High Schools in DC are in the $30K to $45K range.

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My memory was expect higher as there are other expectations. Also, his kids are both under 5 so expect inflation. I’m sure he will find something reasonable out in Boston :lol: :lol:



Lot of choices out there! Noble and Greenough School- more than $50,000 a year.


High Schools in DC are in the $30K to $45K range.

They probably have Chicago alumni meetings too!

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All you need is one time when it is down to you and another guy for a big job for the guy deciding to be from <insert catholic league school>. Except DeSales.

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I don’t even think you can get into Latin HS if you haven’t also put the kid through Latin K-8, though I. could be wrong.

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All you need is one time when it is down to you and another guy for a big job for the guy deciding to be from <insert catholic league school>. Except DeSales.


J Hood is a DeSales guy and an exception to that rule.

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I don’t even think you can get into Latin HS if you haven’t also put the kid through Latin K-8, though I. could be wrong.



That’s why he was looking at k-8.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Drunk Squirrel wrote:
My memory was expect higher as there are other expectations. Also, his kids are both under 5 so expect inflation. I’m sure he will find something reasonable out in Boston :lol: :lol:



Lot of choices out there! Noble and Greenough School- more than $50,000 a year.



We shall see how long he’s out there.


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All you need is one time when it is down to you and another guy for a big job for the guy deciding to be from <insert catholic league school>. Except DeSales.


J Hood is a DeSales guy and an exception to that rule.


Jk :lol:

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pittmike wrote:
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All you need is one time when it is down to you and another guy for a big job for the guy deciding to be from <insert catholic league school>. Except DeSales.


J Hood is a DeSales guy and an exception to that rule.


Jk :lol:


So was I. :wink:

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Can somebody get the most famous Ignatius graduate Wilbon in here to settle all of this for us???

When my family lived in the northern suburbs, Loyola pulled heavily from Sauganash (one of my cousins) and Maine Township. No one from West Wilmette went there, partly because they could go to New Trier West but mostly because the neighborhood was 90% Jewish. I only knew one Irish kid that went there on a scholarship, got mixed up with drug use mostly out of boredom, and eventually failed out of Duke.

My mom was a teacher in Cicero. She and my dad ran the finances even back in the 60s and decided it was better just to take on what was then an overwhelming mortgage in West Wilmette for 18 years and be in District 39/203 than to live somewhere cheaper and send me to private school.

But because we were the relatively poor non-Jewish immigrant family, I never benefitted from the social network. In fact, I haven't had a conversation with someone from my K-12 days in probably 15 years. My cousin, on the other hand, definitely benefitted professionally from his Loyola connections, and now makes 8-9 times what I do because he is a better person than I am.

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Growing up in the southwest suburbs, I never heard of St. Ignatius. Virtually everyone I knew who went to a Catholic high school went to: Brother Rice, Marist, Mother McCauley, or Mt. Carmel. It wasn't until I went to college in the city that I started meeting St. Ignatius grads, and it wasn't until I started working at an alderman's office that I realized what a prestigious high school it was. I was raised Catholic, and I would say that growing up, the majority of people I knew where Catholic, but St. Ignatius was completely off of our radar screens.

Therefore, even among Chicago Catholics, the name St. Ignatius is not going to blow everyone away, but having met people from other sides of the city and gone out in the world, I would take its alumni network over any of the other schools I mentioned above.


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Growing up in the southwest suburbs, I never heard of St. Ignatius. Virtually everyone I knew who went to a Catholic high school went to: Brother Rice, Marist, Mother McCauley, or Mt. Carmel. It wasn't until I went to college in the city that I started meeting St. Ignatius grads, and it wasn't until I started working at an alderman's office that I realized what a prestigious high school it was. I was raised Catholic, and I would say that growing up, the majority of people I knew where Catholic, but St. Ignatius was completely off of our radar screens.

Therefore, even among Chicago Catholics, the name St. Ignatius is not going to blow everyone away, but having met people from other sides of the city and gone out in the world, I would take its alumni network over any of the other schools I mentioned above.



It's funny, because when I was in high school I didn't recognize how prestigious St. Ignatius was either. They were just some team we kicked the living shit out of in every sport except football where they didn't even field a team.

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Can somebody get the most famous Ignatius graduate Wilbon in here to settle all of this for us???

When my family lived in the northern suburbs, Loyola pulled heavily from Sauganash (one of my cousins) and Maine Township. No one from West Wilmette went there, partly because they could go to New Trier West but mostly because the neighborhood was 90% Jewish. I only knew one Irish kid that went there on a scholarship, got mixed up with drug use mostly out of boredom, and eventually failed out of Duke.

My mom was a teacher in Cicero. She and my dad ran the finances even back in the 60s and decided it was better just to take on what was then an overwhelming mortgage in West Wilmette for 18 years and be in District 39/203 than to live somewhere cheaper and send me to private school.

But because we were the relatively poor non-Jewish immigrant family, I never benefitted from the social network. In fact, I haven't had a conversation with someone from my K-12 days in probably 15 years. My cousin, on the other hand, definitely benefitted professionally from his Loyola connections, and now makes 8-9 times what I do because he is a better person than I am.


Growing up in Evanston I was pretty aware that there was a class divide at the Wilmette border. It actually isn't some hard line, of course, but it was generally a certain type of rich person who chose to live on the Evanston side, more liberal, perhaps somewhat guilty about their money (though unwilling to give it away. :lol: ). There were plenty of rich kids at ETHS but there were also kids who got by on government assistance. It was a good place to grow up in that you met people from every possible background at school.

My ex-wife's stepfather went to old New Trier, what was East in our time. You want to talk about connections, this guy's friends read like Who's Who- Bruce Dern, Cork Walgreen, Mike Pyle, a guy whose grandfather partnered with Thomas Edison and made millions with the patent on the pop-up toaster.

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About 15 years ago I was introduced to the importance of a St Ignatius grad by a couple of dudes living below me. It seems a graduate from the school got his ass kicked in a rental unit below mine by other partygoers. I was told while cleaning up glass from the fight he was a drunk and a troublemaker. One of the kids below me worked in the same law firm as this kid's brother. Older brother and father were also St Ignatius grads and apparently fatha was a pretty big deal. He had enough pull downtown to send three undercover cops to the three flat I lived and accuse me of being involved. That was a fun night. The guys downstairs were scared shitless of this fatha and moved shortly thereafter. I never knew the family's name.


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About 15 years ago I was introduced to the importance of a St Ignatius grad by a couple of dudes living below me. It seems a graduate from the school got his ass kicked in a rental unit below mine by other partygoers. I was told while cleaning up glass from the fight he was a drunk and a troublemaker. One of the kids below me worked in the same law firm as this kid's brother. Older brother and father were also St Ignatius grads and apparently fatha was a pretty big deal. He had enough pull downtown to send three undercover cops to the three flat I lived and accuse me of being involved. That was a fun night. The guys downstairs were scared shitless of this fatha and moved shortly thereafter. I never knew the family's name.



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The family was supposedly from that hamlet known as Bridgeport. The dolphin clan knows this clan I'm sure. But it didn't seem to be THE dolphin blood that was spilled.


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The family was supposedly from that hamlet known as Bridgeport. The dolphin clan knows this clan I'm sure. But it didn't seem to be THE dolphin blood that was spilled.


Pretty sure it was Palmisanos.

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I would probably tend to help a Purdue graduate over another school too.


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I would probably tend to help a Purdue graduate over another school too.


You can't even be civil with Spaulding. Who you crappin'?


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Growing up in Evanston I was pretty aware that there was a class divide at the Wilmette border. It actually isn't some hard line, of course, but it was generally a certain type of rich person who chose to live on the Evanston side, more liberal, perhaps somewhat guilty about their money (though unwilling to give it away. :lol: ). There were plenty of rich kids at ETHS but there were also kids who got by on government assistance. It was a good place to grow up in that you met people from every possible background at school.

My ex-wife's stepfather went to old New Trier, what was East in our time. You want to talk about connections, this guy's friends read like Who's Who- Bruce Dern, Cork Walgreen, Mike Pyle, a guy whose grandfather partnered with Thomas Edison and made millions with the patent on the pop-up toaster.

Through a quirk of how they had to map the district to gerrymander the Jews in SW Wilmette to NTW with the poor Northfield people while keeping the old money in NW Wilmette going to NTE, I ended up going to NTE. Whole different world and I didn't particularly fit in. It was there that I learned of the class structure amongst the district's Catholic K-8 schools. Until reduced enrollment started closing schools there was an absolute class hierarchy maintained through the public school K-8 mapping, and then the Catholic schools had their own. St. F. Xavier kids looked down on St. Joe kids, much less kids from St. A's over the border in heathen Evanston.

There were also guys making a shitload of money renting big old slightly beat up houses in east Wilmette to Chinese and Korean 1st generation doctors for 6-7 years at a time so that their kids could go to NTE.

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Growing up in Evanston I was pretty aware that there was a class divide at the Wilmette border. It actually isn't some hard line, of course, but it was generally a certain type of rich person who chose to live on the Evanston side, more liberal, perhaps somewhat guilty about their money (though unwilling to give it away. :lol: ). There were plenty of rich kids at ETHS but there were also kids who got by on government assistance. It was a good place to grow up in that you met people from every possible background at school.

My ex-wife's stepfather went to old New Trier, what was East in our time. You want to talk about connections, this guy's friends read like Who's Who- Bruce Dern, Cork Walgreen, Mike Pyle, a guy whose grandfather partnered with Thomas Edison and made millions with the patent on the pop-up toaster.

Through a quirk of how they had to map the district to gerrymander the Jews in SW Wilmette to NTW with the poor Northfield people while keeping the old money in NW Wilmette going to NTE, I ended up going to NTE. Whole different world and I didn't particularly fit in. It was there that I learned of the class structure amongst the district's Catholic K-8 schools. Until reduced enrollment started closing schools there was an absolute class hierarchy maintained through the public school K-8 mapping, and then the Catholic schools had their own. St. F. Xavier kids looked down on St. Joe kids, much less kids from St. A's over the border in heathen Evanston.

There were also guys making a shitload of money renting big old slightly beat up houses in east Wilmette to Chinese and Korean 1st generation doctors for 6-7 years at a time so that their kids could go to NTE.


Yeah, there are those apartments along the highway and on Ridge Road that "poor" people who want their kids to go to New Trier overpay for. It sort of reminds me of the movie Slums of Beverly Hills.

My ex-wife went to St. Francis and then New Trier. I think, like me, you're a little older than she is. In her time they had combined the schools for sports purposes but they operated the West campus as a freshman and maybe sophomore school.

I always thought the Glencoe and Winnetka kids- not to even mention Kenilworth- thought they were better than the ones from Wilmette. My ex-wife's best friend was a rich girl from Winnetka. I remember they had a private police force in her neighborhood called the Munson Patrol.

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$15 million/20K is 750 scholarships.

Are any of you familiar with funding like this? It's my understanding the $15 million isn't put into a pot with the entirety available on day 1. If it were, the money would go much further than 750 because those would not be handed out in one year. The money would have time to grow and might never dissipate entirely

If I were a billionaire, I'd love to fund catholic high schools to make them free or virtually free. I think this happened in the Wichita diocese. I also think something like that occurred at a high school in NY

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Yeah, there are those apartments along the highway and on Ridge Road that "poor" people who want their kids to go to New Trier overpay for. It sort of reminds me of the movie Slums of Beverly Hills.

My ex-wife went to St. Francis and then New Trier. I think, like me, you're a little older than she is. In her time they had combined the schools for sports purposes but they operated the West campus as a freshman and maybe sophomore school.

I always thought the Glencoe and Winnetka kids- not to even mention Kenilworth- thought they were better than the ones from Wilmette. My ex-wife's best friend was a rich girl from Winnetka. I remember they had a private police force in her neighborhood called the Munson Patrol.

I was there for the merger in 82. I was the only happy person, as I was reunited with a number of folks from junior high.

Wilmette had a tiny bit of subsidized low income housing, it used to be an apartment building in back of Plaza drl Lago. Divorced ex-wives of lawyers and doctors on six-figure alimony they didn't have to declare, and elderly retired who had deeded everything to their kids and claimed poverty. God forbid an actual poor person moved in.

I suspect that we only have one degree of separation, but it might take a lot of drinking to figure out who it is.

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