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"I'm such a person on building the interior of lines, and the game that the NFL is nowadays, I think Khalil Mack is a ridiculously good football player," Orlovsky said. "I don't need to tell anybody that. The ball comes out really quickly nowadays. The last four years I've said, give me interior people before edges and that's on both sides of the ball. Give me a really good center and really good guard more than really good tackle nowadays in the NFL. Teams aren't dropping back in condenses space and doing seven-step drops and holding the ball for four seconds like they used to and give me guys who can get the interior pressure more than the edge pressure because the ball comes out of the quarterback's hands so quickly nowadays."


The Bosa brothers don't seem to have an issue rushing the edge in today's NFL.




I don’t care if it’s the edge or the interior -HoF level pass rushers are very hard to find and you keep them when you find them. 2nd most important thing in football behind a QB. There’s no reason to trade Mack for picks you’d be turning around and using to try and find those 2 positions with anyway. Mack is still young enough and to be built around and already surrounded by talent.


The Bears need to fix the offense. They are a good game managing QB and better play caller away from being a consistently good team.. I’d add O-line help too

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The 2019 NFL season is slowly coming to a close. Only seven games remain in the regular season and many teams have already begun planning their offseason strategy.

The biggest team-building event of every offseason is the NFL Draft. The Bears will once again be without a first-round pick in 2020 -- it was part of last September's Khalil Mack trade -- but they do have two second-rounders at their disposal (theirs and Oakland's.)

As of now, those two picks sit at No. 46 and 49 overall.
There are MANY quality players that can be found with picks in the 40s.

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The 2019 NFL season is slowly coming to a close. Only seven games remain in the regular season and many teams have already begun planning their offseason strategy.

The biggest team-building event of every offseason is the NFL Draft. The Bears will once again be without a first-round pick in 2020 -- it was part of last September's Khalil Mack trade -- but they do have two second-rounders at their disposal (theirs and Oakland's.)

As of now, those two picks sit at No. 46 and 49 overall.
There are MANY quality players that can be found with picks in the 40s.

Pace will package both to move up to pick 31 and draft a TE that will be out of the league by 2023.

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The 2019 NFL season is slowly coming to a close. Only seven games remain in the regular season and many teams have already begun planning their offseason strategy.

The biggest team-building event of every offseason is the NFL Draft. The Bears will once again be without a first-round pick in 2020 -- it was part of last September's Khalil Mack trade -- but they do have two second-rounders at their disposal (theirs and Oakland's.)

As of now, those two picks sit at No. 46 and 49 overall.
There are MANY quality players that can be found with picks in the 40s.

Pace will package both to move up to pick 31 and draft a TE that will be out of the league by 2023.


Don't forget that the TE will be the first ever NFL draft pick from some shitty liberal arts college in Vermont.

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Pace will package both to move up to pick 31 and draft a TE that will be out of the league by 2023.
If you're gonna kill me, don't make it a slow death. Just shoot me in the face and end it quick, alright? That's not too much to ask.

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Last 5 games: 1 sack.


Khalil Mack sucks. Another bad move that set the Bears back four years. Now you need a QB again, and you have no 1st round picks.

You never give two 1st rounders for a defensive lineman. He doesn't score any points.

Ryan Pace should not last through the season, but the Bears never own up to their mistakes.

Burn the whole thing down and start over. Draft offensive linemen like Dallas.


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O'Bradovich/Hampton/Koz and other Ex-Bears going after Mack in the papers the past few days.


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That said, I think Mack shows up huge Sunday night. Prime time..don't want to get upstaged by Donald.


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Khalil Mack sucks.
You suck.

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Now you need a QB again
According to your dumbass, RG3 cures all for the Bears?

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You never give two 1st rounders for a defensive lineman.
The Bears didn't do that. They did give up two first rounders for an outside linebacker.

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He doesn't score any points.
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Bears Hall of Famer: Khalil Mack ‘Has Turned Into a Thief’

https://heavy.com/sports/2019/11/dan-ha ... k-a-thief/

Even after the Chicago Bears’ recent 20-13 win against the Detroit Lions, two former Bears legends are calling out the team’s defense–specifically its star player, Khalil Mack.

On their weekly radio show and podcast, The Hamp & O’B Show with Koz, former Bears defensive end Ed O’Bradovich and Hall of Fame defensive lineman Dan Hampton saw multiple things happen with the Bears throughout the game that they took issue with. Hampton, a member of the famed ’85 Bears Super Bowl winning defense, said he was down on the sidelines during the Bears’ game against the Lions Sunday, and he did not like what he saw.

Hampton: Bears Defense Has No Direction & No Leadership

Hampton noted that the Bears defense let a second-string quarterback (Jeff Driskel, who filled in for an injured Matthew Stafford) go up and down the field on them for much of the game, noting that they looked sluggish when they’re supposed to be looking dominant. Hampton said he watched the Bears prepare for the game, as well as how they interacted and, he said there was something “sad” about the current team.

“They should be ashamed of the way they played today,” Hampton said about the entire team. “There’s something ill in the winds that are blowing out of Soldier Field,” Hampton mused, before calling out someone specifically: Bears star linebacker Khalil Mack.

Khalil Mack Not a Leader, a “Thief”

While Khalil Mack had a strong start to the season, he has been quiet of late. Mack hasn’t forced a fumble since Week 4–he forced four through Week 4 and hasn’t forced one since. Hampton said Mack’s absence has been felt: “Where the hell was Khalil Mack?” Hampton asked. “This guy has turned into a thief…any team has got to have a certain leader, a guy that you look at and say that’s the guy we’re gonna emulate and follow,” and Mack has not been that guy, according to Hampton.

Hampton went on to say that the Bears had two leaders on defense who were also the team’s two most physical players: Akiem Hicks and Danny Trevathan–both of whom are likely out for the majority of the season. “Akiem Hicks is the man, not Khalil Mack,” Ed O’Bradovich added, noting how different the Bears defense has looked without Hicks. O’Bradovich also noted that the Bears went from giving up a little over 60 yards rushing a game with Hicks in the lineup to giving up over 120 ypg with him out.

“Is he a great football player?” O’Bradovich asked. “Yes, he is…Can you have a bad game? Yes, you can. Yes, you can. But you can’t have five bad games. Not when you’re making $141 million dollars for six years, which brings it to $23.5 million a year…if he plays about 50 plays a game, that’s roughly…he makes about $30,000 a play,” O’Bradovich noted. “He had better walk on water, which he has not been doing,” O’Bradovich said.

Glen Kozlowski: Mack Has Been “Nonexistent This Year”

Former Bears wide receiver Glen Kozlowski has a different problem with Mack this season: his apparent lack of conditioning.

“I’m watching this guy taking himself out on critical plays because he’s tired. He’s out of shape and that defense is out of shape and it showed,” Kozlowski said, referring to a moment late in the fourth quarter against the Lions when Mack asked to be taken out during a critical third downplay.

“This is the down that you need Mack–late in the game with time running out and you need a defensive stop or a big play, Kozlowski argued. Instead, it feels like Mack has been “nonexistent this year,” Kozlowski said.

Both Hampton and O’Bradovich scoffed at the idea that the increased snaps the defense has been playing due to the offense’s ineptitude could be contributing to Mack and the defense’s apparent fatigue. Instead, they pointed to poor conditioning and practice routines due to poor coaching.

“Chuck Pagano, we’re looking at you, buddy,” Hampton said, noting that the Bears’ uninspired and out of shape defense is largely on the coaches, especially the defensive coordinator.

With both Hicks and Trevathan out, Mack should be the unquestioned leader of this defense–and he has seven games left to assume that role.

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They're not wrong. Akiem Hicks is the obvious star of the defense and fans are still not willing to admit it, since it would result in another black mark on Pace.

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Maybe Mack isn't in game shape. I hear that's always the reason why when he no-shows in a game.

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They're not wrong. Akiem Hicks is the obvious star of the defense and fans are still not willing to admit it, since it would result in another black mark on Pace.
The Mack trade was great.

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Maybe Mack isn't in game shape. I hear that's always the reason why when he no-shows in a game.
He's being triple-teamed!!

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They're not wrong. Akiem Hicks is the obvious star of the defense and fans are still not willing to admit it, since it would result in another black mark on Pace.


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Mack hasn't been dominant this year but you guys are acting like he should be cut.

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Mack hasn't been dominant this year but you guys are acting like he should be cut.

He's been solid but it's probably not good when GB has two edge rushers outproducing him.

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Mack hasn't been dominant this year but you guys are acting like he should be cut.

He's been solid but it's probably not good when GB has two edge rushers outproducing him.

Yes. It would be better if Mack was dominating.

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Maybe Mack isn't in game shape. I hear that's always the reason why when he no-shows in a game.
He's being triple-teamed!!

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Mack hasn't been dominant this year but you guys are acting like he should be cut.

He's been solid but it's probably not good when GB has two edge rushers outproducing him.


Those are coverage sacks because they have Amos. Bears have no one who can match

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Mack hasn't been dominant this year but you guys are acting like he should be cut.

He's been solid but it's probably not good when GB has two edge rushers outproducing him.


Those are coverage sacks because they have Amos. Bears have no one who can match

Sacks, indeed. Not just pressures my friend.

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Maybe Mack isn't in game shape. I hear that's always the reason why when he no-shows in a game.
He's being triple-teamed!!

:lol:

Maybe the Raiders should trade for Mack and then release him to help with making the playoffs.

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Benson Mayowa is outperforming Mack at a fraction of the cost.

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Benson Mayowa is outperforming Mack at a fraction of the cost.
That must be pretty cool to have such a great player and team.

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If the Raiders actually do make playoffs..Furious might even become a more insufferable fuck than Favre Fan.
I actually enjoy the Packers meatballs going nuts on here like Zippy, FF, and Kirkwood because for the first time in a long time the Packers are actually really good.

The Raiders are basically the same as 15 other NFL teams that aren't that good but they aren't that bad so they get to be in a playoff hunt.

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If the Raiders actually do make playoffs..Furious might even become a more insufferable fuck than Favre Fan.
I actually enjoy the Packers meatballs going nuts on here like Zippy, FF, and Kirkwood because for the first time in a long time the Packers are actually really good.

:lol:

Careful Rick. We aren’t Vikings fans. I don’t think you wanna do the recent success comparison with us you tried with IMU.

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