You could be correct. The point is he obviously has much more ability than Wheeler and he's displayed it for stretches and then he's gotten hurt. Maybe that's just who he is.

In any case, iit's probably not wise to pay $100 million to a guy who at his best isn't going to give you a whole lot more than Rodon will if you can get him to make mosr of his starts.

Not sure if McCan is a big enough return to get a RP. Rutherford didn't do so hot in the AFL.

Wheeler vs Quintana. Pretty much the same pitcher. Sox might as well just trade for Quintana.

They had to cut out ROT in Rodon's shoulder. That means some of his shoulder isn't there anymore. Wheeler has all of his shoulder, made 31 starts, and had a career year. A better year than Rodon ever had.

Time will tell. I'm not certain about Rodon and I make no predictions about his future, but I am 100% certain Wheeler is not worth $20 million a year.

I don't think that anyone said that starting pitching isn't important. It certainly is. However, look at Hamel's progression to where he is now and look at some of the guy's lie him in the past that had one or two awesome years and lost their stuff or got hurt. Look at Kershaw. Look at Sale. Baseball is full of these guys. Guys like Verlander or the Big Unit are pretty much freaks of nature and/or very lucky.

Then take a look at lets say Giolitto. He had a very good year last year. What is to say that he cannot rise to being a guy who has a GREAT SEASON. Same thing with Lopez or Cease. You just do not know who takes the huge step to becoming a STAR or goes into the big bucket of failure. Hitters and position players are different. They are greatly more dependable to sink big money into. Arms get hurt and lose velocity much earlier than hitters lose their ability to hit. It is just the way things are.

I'm a Cub fan and I think Giolito had a great year. It's fantasy to think he'll do better next year. Best you can hope is he'll repeat 2019, which I think is unlikely.

After returning from ROT!!! surgery, Rodon went on a two month run where he was as good as any pitcher in baseball.

I don't think that anyone said that starting pitching isn't important. It certainly is. However, look at Hamel's progression to where he is now and look at some of the guy's lie him in the past that had one or two awesome years and lost their stuff or got hurt. Look at Kershaw. Look at Sale. Baseball is full of these guys. Guys like Verlander or the Big Unit are pretty much freaks of nature and/or very lucky.

Then take a look at lets say Giolitto. He had a very good year last year. What is to say that he cannot rise to being a guy who has a GREAT SEASON. Same thing with Lopez or Cease. You just do not know who takes the huge step to becoming a STAR or goes into the big bucket of failure. Hitters and position players are different. They are greatly more dependable to sink big money into. Arms get hurt and lose velocity much earlier than hitters lose their ability to hit. It is just the way things are.

Rick Morrissey lost his mind.

I think Giolito is a solid #2 SP, he just isn't an ace and I think a lot of people think he is.

"Next five years, give me the White Sox roster," Rosenthal said. "Give me their farm system and I'd like to play with it because there's upside there that the Cubs don't have. In fact, the Cubs face a lot of questions in the coming years."

Rosenthal said that when adding in business potential, the Cubs' job might still be more enticing to a hypothetical baseball executive in this scenario. He also warned that Kris Bryant, Javy Baez, Kyle Schwarber and Anthony Rizzo are all free agents after 2021 and Willson Contreras a year later.

"This is a team that's getting older," Rosenthal said of the Cubs. "It's a team that does not have a farm system at nearly the level of the White Sox, a team that has not produced young pitching in the Theo Epstein era. From that perspective, while the White Sox young pitching is not great, I like that team."

"White Sox aren't done this offseason either," Rosenthal said. "They're going to get a starting pitcher, maybe two."

"The White Sox have an excellent roster and certainly if you include the minor league players," Heyman said. "Luis Robert is gonna be a major star. They got Kopech coming back. Giolito has obviously emerged. Moncada has improved. If you're just talking about the roster and the team, I'm going with the White Sox."

"It's kind of hit and miss whether you can keep these very big stars around [The Cubs] for a long time and their contracts and their ability to keep them are mostly up in a year or two years," Heyman said.

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I think Giolito is a solid #2 SP, he just isn't an ace and I think a lot of people think he is.

CHICAGO -- The Chicago White Sox have announced the following four roster moves:

Declined to tender 2020 contracts to right-handed pitcher Ryan Burr, left-hander Caleb Frare and infielder Yolmer Sánchez; Released right-hander Thyago Vieira.

Vieira was released in order to pursue an opportunity to play in Japan.

All remaining unsigned players on the White Sox 40-man roster have been tendered contracts for the 2020 season.

Following the moves, the White Sox 40-man roster decreases to 36.

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I'm a Cub fan and I think Giolito had a great year. It's fantasy to think he'll do better next year. Best you can hope is he'll repeat 2019, which I think is unlikely.

Sox have openings on the 40 man roster so keep an eye out for signings

I don't know about it being fantasy to think he'll do better next year. He proved himself to have excellent mechanics last year and good stuff. He should win more games next year just based on the improved line-up he will have around him alone. Pitching is a lot of times a crap shoot except for a very select few pitchers like Verlander. Now the flavors of the year are Hamel and Wheeler and they want the big check.

What smart teams need to do in regard to pitching is to have 7-8 healthy starters on your 40 man roster when you start the regular season and go from there. With additional assets in your farm system that you can possibly trade if you are in a pennant race and need an edge.

What the hell was Bernsie talking about that Cole Hammels wants to be on the Sox?

What the hell was Bernsie talking about that Cole Hammels wants to be on the Sox?

I would ok IF the Sox signed Wheeler\Bum and then added Cole. But I am not ok with Cole being the #1 get for the pitching staff.

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