Nagy/(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky
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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
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The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Hard not to argue.

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I'd be very surprised if the Bears parted ways with either one this offseason. They've had 1 great season and 1 average to bad season together. That's usually enough to earn a 3rd season together.

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That's probably not good

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If Mitch has an average year in 2020 he’ll move up to 3rd all time in Bears passing yards, can’t cut bait on that!

Did you see the graphic NBC showed last night comparing Mahomes' FIRST 30 games of his career to the BEST 30 games of any Bears QB over the last 100 years? Talk about embarrassing.

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(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has shown an ability to learn and adapt. He doesn't just keep doing the same thing every week hoping it'll eventually work.

Nagy on the other hand has run the same offense every game since week one 2018 @GB. Its pathetic. The Bears have to be the easiest offense in the NFL to gameplan against.

That's why it was so amusing the Cowboys just played base defense with no disguised coverages the entire game against the Bears

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(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky will be one of the best QBs of all time if they are patient with him.

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Okay Nas

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Numbers never lie

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Numbers lie, mechanics do not.

I'm open to getting back on the Mitch bandwagon. He MUST work on his footwork in the off season.

If nagy keeps handing him horseshit game plans, it will be a HUGE issue.

McVay's game plan Saturday night showed why he is light years ahead of Nagy as a coach.

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Trubinsky seems to always miss the vital home run throws. That A-Rob throw should've been a tuddy.

Both Nagy and Trubinsky are rotten and should go.

That was the first one of those he's missed the 2nd half of the season. He missed them a lot last year.

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He's good for two misses a game on those kinds of routes when the dude is wide open.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Apparently there's a board consensus here that says missing wide open receivers is on Nagy.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

He's connected with tight coverage on quite a few recently and hit an open Robinson last week. The touch passes have gotten better. His margin for error in this offense is small so he has to make that.

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The average QB rating across the league back then was in the high 70s, and now it's in the low 90s.

Hard to believe Mitch's rating this year is not too far off Dan Marino's career rating. And Mitch is 28th in the league.

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Ok so sometimes they lie

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Because leading the league in three and outs is more of a concern than being the second stingiest defense in the NFC based on points allowed.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

I'm enjoying the new veganfan/NME feud I didn't know existed until recently.

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My thing with NME is he just says stuff without scrutinizing it first and passes it off as a commonly held/obvious view. When you look at the numbers he's usually wrong


6.2 pass yards given up per completion = 6th best in the league (5.8 in 2018, 1st best)
3.8 rush yards per rush = 4th best in the league (3.7 in 2018 = 3rd best)
325 total yards given up per game = 8th best in the league (299/game in 2018 = 3rd best)
18.6 points allowed per game = 6th best in the league (17.6 in 2018 = 1st best)

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Sounds like your issue with him is that he watches the game. What he's said about the defense is accurate.

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Have you seen the numbers? The regression is negligible. The big noteworthy disparity is TOs but it still only meant one more point given up per game in the most important defensive metric.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Takeaways. There's the huge regression between last year and this one.

Mentioned it above. The D is supposed to stop the other team from scoring. TOs are a bonus. Even with less TOs they still are better than about 25 teams in preventing scoring.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Watching the games would tell you that the Bears have struggled to get a stop when they need one or to protect the rare lead they're given. They've struggled the most in the 3rd and 4th. The trend is the same even when the Bears win time of possession.

All of that being said the Bears didn't fail to make the playoffs because of their defense. It's been more than good enough to win with.

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We are getting into W/L vs run support/ERA territory here: do you expect the defense to protect a lead or just do enough to limit the opponent's scoring regardless of the second-to-second circumstances of the game? For example, like in baseball, if the Bears give up a game winning FG to lose the game 0-3, did the D do a good job or did they fail (because they didn't protect the lead). You and others seem to think they failed. In this you are sort of advancing the JORR argument in favor of the W/L metric in baseball because the D failed to match the other team's performance on D. I am on the "run support" side. A 0-3 loss in the last seconds would be a tremendous defensive performance for me. The loss is on the offense. Records are being shattered by QBs who blossmed in the 2000s and 2010s due to rule changes that facilitate scoring and high yardage plays. In this era you're going to give up points. Most league leaders in points allowed over the years are giving up between 15-17 ppg. That's about 2 TDs+. For me that's the leash I give my defense. I go into a game even with a good defense expecting that, all things considered, if I can hold the average opponent to 15-17 then we've done a good job. That's not true for shitty teams whom I expect to dominate. So i focus less on the second-to-second/protecting lead thing and more on the overall points surrendered. If I hold a team to 15-17 and still lose it just means that my offense (run support) didn't show up.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

I think you play the game in front of you. It doesn't matter if the defense blows a lead like they did in a high scoring game against the Dolphins last year or like they did in a low scoring game against the Eagles in the playoffs. It's not unreasonable to ask or expect a great defense to get a critical stop.

Even lopsided games were closer this year because the defense gave up late scores after playing well most of the game.

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So the W/L approach. We have a philosophical difference then. That's fine. I think your blind spot is if you want to say it's reasonable to expect the D to get a critical stop then it's equally reasonable to expect the O to provide some a reasonable margin of error. The d has been so good these two years and the offense bad that we're implicitly expecting the d to both stop offenses and score on d as well. That's unreasonable.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY