Getting a 4th round rookie who was basically as good as Mack this year is definitely a notch in the Raiders Won The Trade column

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But over the course of two years, the Bears are still up. If you want to ignore last years results that is fine, but it does not change the total picture right now.

Year 1 Bears Playoffs. Raiders Crap.

Year 2 Bears Crap. Raiders Crap.

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It comes down to this, are you a millennial cuck who knows fuckall about football or not.


Mack has dominated, I don't give a fuck what the stats say to the nerds. Mack gets game planned against like no other every week... He's double n triple teamed or single blocked when they run the play the other way.
LT, Reggie White.. great players, HIF guys.. who never saw a double team in their life.. that's a fact.

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If Mack retired tomorrow it would be a good trade!

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Don't put Franks stuff on me I maybe a simpleton, but I am not frank

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

You should try watching a football game. This post is absurd on a few levels.

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312 is my guy, but yeah, that is a mess of a post.

It's just not an apt description of anything Mack is or isn't doing this year.

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Yikes! If was trolling and I typed this out I would have erased it or made adjustments because I would have thought it wasn't believable.

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GO BEARS!!!

It was Rick's, but I get your point.

Sorry.

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I guess we disagree, I love the guy.. best bear since 34 IMO.. I'm 41 years old.

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I get it. We're all fans of someone.

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GO BEARS!!!

I can go with that. The moment the Raiders win a Super Bowl is the moment we stop using cumulative records. Sound good?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

It would be and that is why you can't even explain why that thought isn't right. The two years of Mack have been worth giving up the first round pick last year, moving down 25 spots on the first round pick this year, and giving up a 3rd pick.

I would do that trade again in a heartbeat if I knew the player would be as elite as Mack has been even if it was only for two years.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

The same can be said about of yours and FF's posts on Mack over the last few days.

He hasn't "dominated" as 312 claimed, but he hasn't stood around and did nothing as you and FF have claimed.

Mack had a good year. Not elite, but good. He's been worth giving up one first rounder and moving down 20 spots in the 2020 draft.

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In a heartbeat.

and I'm not one of these who is going to sugarcoat Mack's season. He was the invisible man. This week was a very nice example of his work. The Vikings were in on a short week after having their OL dominated. This should have been a stat padding game for Mack. Nothing!

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THIS.
We will see how Mack responds next year.

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Bingo. One 1st and moving up 20 spots in the 2020 draft. And considering Tunsil and Ramsey fetched two 1st rounders each(and Mack, IMO is clearly better than both), it appears the Raiders got hosed on the return.

Yeah but he was double , triple teamed , derpy derp derp.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

dolphin sees it, why doesn't Frank?

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Because I'm smarter than you give me credit for.

dolphin is wrong. Mack was not invisible this year. He did not dominate like last year, but he was still good. I don't believe I have said even one time that Mack had (or is having) a great 2019. I've said he has been "good" which is correct.

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Well honestly Frank, I’m expecting a little more than “ he was good” from a guy who costs first round picks and 140 million .

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

I mean, sure, if Floyd put up his numbers we would call it a great season. He was a perfectly acceptable starting level DE.

Is that really how we are going to judge him?

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You recognize Mack was invisible yet again yesterday but reaffirm how good the trade is.

I guess it’s like the Cutler trade where even after it’s proven it didn’t work out you can defend it on the merits of potential and “going for it”

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

After two years, FF is saying the trade didn't work. Laughable.


Yes, Mack needs to be better. He needs to take over a few games in 2020 like he did in 2018. Still, people that say he was invisible, took games off, or stood around and did nothing but collect money this year are flat out wrong. And, outside of dolphin, those people are not Bears fans. So of course there is an agenda.

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1 great year and 1 average year so far.

Trade was worth it.

Now if Mack never has another great season, then that changes things.

But so far so good.

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And all of this talk about Mack stealing money and taking games off (he didn't), had the Bears offense this year even been mediocre, they probably win 2-3 more games and make the playoffs.

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You want to talk about "taking games off". The capital used from the Mack trade...Josh Jacobs, well with the season on the line, he "bitched" his way out of playing those two games.(skin rash, lol) Mack was out there yesterday, with nothing to play for.

Great thread.

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