That’s wrong too. Robinson is a great player. If you needed a player for one year he’s better than Golladay and equal to Diggs. Not everyone can be Davante Adams.

Are we still pretending guys like Sammy Watkins and Mecole Hardman are better? I know you were trying to go with that line for a bit.

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What's this have to do with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky vs Winston? Are you suggesting (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and a bottom ranked offense had more to do with the team's eight wins than the top ten defense? You also didn't get back to me when I disproved that Winston's INTs were the major driver behind TB's points allowed per game. Like I said, they gave up 35-37 ppg to opponents in four games where Winston only threw two picks. Chicago never reached that level of poor play. TB gave up 70+ points in two games during which Winton threw no picks at all. Do you still think the defenses were similar? They allowed 143 points in those four games which is 47% of what Chicago gave up in an entire season. They're not similar.

There's nothing tantalizing about (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. Major goals for him next season include reading defenses, going through progressions, and hitting WRs with more accuracy. That's orientation for a rookie and this dude still needs that stuff going into year four. It's embarrassing. Again there's nothing enticing about the guy. At best he's replacement level.

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Because I respect your intelligence I didn’t think I needed to spell it out. But I will.

You said Jameis is better. Going back decades the clearest sign of a losing team is losing the turnover battle. Jameis turns the ball over at a historic rate. Mitch is above average in not turning it over.

That’s it. I explained it.

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Business analogy. So there are things you shouldn't be doing , things you should be doing, and things that go above and beyond what you should do. You don't get credit for not doing things you shouldn't do anyway. You get credit for doing things you should do (i.e. your job). The last one is self explanatory.

Things you shouldn't be doing: TOs. Winston does this. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky does not. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky wins.

Things you should be doing: scoring/driving the team down the field. Winston does this. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky doesn't know how to do this. Winston wins.

Above and beyond: Winston has done this on occasion. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky - lol

So though he's not doing his job (scoring) at best (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky deserves a pat on the head for not turning the ball over. Don't see why you think going 21-27 for 103 yards and no TDs and no INTs makes him some exciting prospect to work with.

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We were so used to terrible offenses that fans overreacted to an average offense last year.

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That’s a terrible analogy. A better one would be to compare a competent but unspectacular employee to one who’s very good at times but at other times held a drug fueled orgy at the office and burned the building down.

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He's not competent. He's underperforming.

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No he’s competent or close enough to it for that description to be apt.

To use your business analogy you’re trying to compare someone who isn’t good at his job with someone who burns down the office and trashes all his fellow employees computers.

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There's nothing competent about ranking in the bottom third of QBs except for INTs.

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Listen to yourself. All you've got is that he's good at not turning the ball over.

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This year (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky had 4 games where he averaged 7.5 y/a or better and 3 of those games came in the final 8 weeks. He didn't have 1 game where he averaged above 9. Last season he had 3 games where his y/a was above 10 with a high of 13.6. Even in his rookie there were 4 games he was at 8.4 or better. That literally happened once this year.

It appeared to me that the offense called for a lot of short passes and only about 5 throws down the field every game. Is that because of the TE? Trying to go conservative to help the defense?

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That’s a big deal when the guy you’re comparing him to threw a historic number of INTs compared to the time frame in which he was throwing them.

Are you trying to dispute that turnovers are not important? That’s a more interesting conversation and that seems to be where you’re going here. FWIW, Ben Baldwin is a dumb person’s idea of a smart guy and he agrees with you. Go all the way with it.

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That’s a big deal when you’re suggesting they should go with a guy who turns the ball over twice a game in a dream offense.

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Golladay is definitely better because of the simple fact that you can hit home runs with him. You can't do that with Robinson. The same is true for Diggs. Both players matched or exceeded Robinson's production with 35 fewer catches

I'm not convinced Watkins isn't equal. He looked great in stretches last year when Hill was either out or injured. Just looked at his numbers this year and the same is true. He's been more productive than Robinson but he's had fewer opportunities.

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I don't know who Ben Baldwin is. Turnovers are important I've already said (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is superior to Winston in that regard, but so is every single QB in the league.

What I'm saying is that you don't have anything positive to about (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky except that he doesn't turn the ball over. What else do you got? He does literally nothing else. Can't hit deep or intermediate balls. Can't score TDs. Can't diagnose defenses to optimize his team's chances at scoring. He's vanilla as fuck on his best day.

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35 fewer catches is an indictment, not a positive. Robinson isn’t a top 10 WR probably but he’s damn close and has done everything he can. Look at Hopkins 2016 season if you want to see how a bad offense impacts an elite WR. And Robinson was better than that.

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You trust that he's going to get you in position to win a game if you are down late. He's a threat with his legs and can fit a ball into tight windows. He works hard and his coaches and teammates love him.

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If Mitch was throwing as many deep balls as Winston he'd have just as many ints. Easy to have less picks when you're throwing 15 screen and dumpoff passes every game.

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That's not an indictment of Golladay or Diggs. Give them 35 more receptions and they're knocking on the door of 2000 yards. Robinson was Ron Mercer this year. Give Watkins the same number of touches and he has better numbers as well.

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Nas doesn't even believe this horseshit he's been typing. He's trolling.

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Hypothetical (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is a turnover machine.

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Allen Robinson is better than Golladay, Diggs and Watkins based on what? It's definitely not the numbers.

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I will admit that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's inability to score throughout the game often puts him in position to overcome deficits of his own making.

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You would trust him to overcome one.

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I'm talking about your (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky posts.

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I'm not coming close to saying that he's a great quarterback. I simply said that you can win with him and occasionally because of him. That's not exactly high praise. I'm just not blaming him for all of the problems with the Bears offense and that appears to piss MANY irrational Bears fans off.

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Can't pitch a shut out every game - any run support he can provide would be appreciated.

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That’s just not true. His best day was what he did against Dallas and he was phenomenal. He has a lot of flaws. But he’s capable of making the highest level throws, he’s got good mobility, and he plays best when the stakes are the highest. That’s enough positive attributes that can’t be coached up to mold a good QB out of. You will be unable to list that number of positive attributes about Jameis.

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Robinson was Ron Mercer this year is all you need to say. Now I know not to take you seriously on this.

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Robinson isn't better than Diggs, Golladay or Watkins. There isn't a stat or eye test that says differently. You can dismiss my thoughts all you want but you don't have a good argument.

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