Garrett not officially let go yet either and has another meeting with Jones today. I left those two out of my "most deserves to be fired but won't be" post because I thought they were foregone conclusions.

That seems to be the popular sentiment but I don’t know if I agree. Imo he’s one of the best head coaches in the league. It’s hard to imagine anyone having success in Washington but I don’t think he will fail too bad and I do think he’ll have job offers afterwards

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Rivera has had 3 winning seasons out of 9.

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Bruce Allen being gone probably makes the Washington job look a lot better. Snyder's a pain in the ass but Allen probably deserves more of the blame for their last decade. Rivera will end up with someone loyal to him at GM if not a complete puppet.

I’m aware of his resume

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

No shit,I am glad this season is over.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Cleveland and NYG are worse head coaching jobs.

Chicago is a worse job

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Correct.

Yeah, the Chicago job with its top 7 defense and 2018 division title is a worse job than the third world football operation up in DC. Makes sense.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Bears are a terrible organization. Bungled their stadium situation. Have hired a succession of lousy head coaches.

Washington and Cleveland are worse than Chicago. Giants is better.

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Chicago is a great job. You see what happens to people who win here. They are like greek gods. Fucking Ditka and the entire 85 team are treated like kings in this town even though they only won once.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Bears job is great if you win. Problem is they are owned by a large family who get their entire income from the team. That's why they screwed up the stadium deal. They took the deal that was the least risk. Since Ditka they have hired a succession of lousy head coaches and equally bad gms.

Lovie was a good coach and Angelo and Pace have been fine GM's. This Bears fan misery parade is nauseating.

The Charter NFL franchise with one Super Bowl win the last 30+ years.

Everything's good.

Only one team wins every year and for the last twenty years you could pretty reliably count on one particular team being the odds-on favourite every season. The Bears have been competitive mostly, aside from the moribund years of Trestman and Fox. Those years were a direct product of people taking this some pathetic, whiny tone towards what was really a fairly competent head coach and general manager and replacing them with a pair of total incompetents.

Truth is the Bears have failed to meet your expectations because they never have any continuity. Everyone is always needing to be fired for nonsense reasons, like Pace missing on the Adam Shaheen pick is really worth firing him over.

Bears have been to the bloated NFL playoffs 5 times since 1994. Terrible record, not competitve.Same number of appearances as Washington.

They are a bottom third franchise success wise in the NFL in last 30 years.

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My post was sarcastic.

Firing Lovie resulted in the 2010's being very nearly a lost decade. Bears had a good coach who keep them in the NFL "cycle", but they launched him for two wrecking balls that did so much damage that the roster took three years to rebuild in the hands of a competent GM. And now you all want to fire that competent GM who brought the Bears back to at least some level of respectability for what? To roll the dice again and hopefully not come out with another Emery?

Stupid. You recognize the futility but cannot comprehend its root cause.

Pace 5 year record : 34-46 with one playoff loss.

You have been beaten into submission by this franchise.

He has rebuilt this roster so successfully that the common theme is now that the players on the o-line, the wide receivers and the tight ends all need to be upgraded for success of the supposed "franchise quarterback" (also drafted by this GM). Ignore the fact that the same person who brought in these players will be in charge with finding their replacements. And don't forget that the supposed "bright young offensive minded coach" who led this team to the 29th ranked offense was also brought in by this GM.

The real problem is the ownership doesn't know the proper people to hire to run this football organization.

And let me add, I was snowed by Nagy. I thought they had the next great thing last year. But his absolute inability to adjust to the adjustment made by the rest of the league is, to be kind, worrisome.

Really unfair to use his career record like that when he inherited a roster whose best player by significant margin was Kyle Long. There was really no path to them turning it around any sooner than they did.

Everyone got fooled by Nagy. The whole league did, they even gave him coach of the year!

If the Bears fire Pace odds are they will replace him with somebody worse, if they are lucky they'll replace him with somebody as good. The likelihood that the next GM would be an improvement is so low it may as well be nil. Not many GM's have been better at drafting than Pace, and nearly all of his big (not minor moves like Markus Wheaton) free agent pushes have been successful. Really Burton is the only failure there.

He builds good rosters. Did they let the OL fall into disrepair? Yes. Its a salary cap league, this is the nature of the game. You cannot have an all-pro at every position. Every team has bad money somewhere on the books, too.

Was Ryan Pace somehow supposed to know that Matt Nagy would essentially go rogue and run the same plays in nearly the same succession for two entire seasons? I'm curious how he was supposed to see that coming during the interview. I very highly doubt Nagy told him "I'm going to script these imminently obsolete plays and never abandon them even while the offense is being held to three points a game".

Nagy is an enthusiastic guy who clearly knows his football. I bet he interviewed like a champ. I bet her got awesome recommendations around the league. The fatal flaw is his stubborness and ego, two traits that maybe would not have been apparent (or even hindrances in his career) until he got the job he has now.

That is a passionate fan right there and a really solid take.

Bravo.

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-Hank Kingsley

I agree with most of this, PM. Pace is a mixed bag. I'm sure you can acknowledge that if Pace's fingerprints are all over this season and the bust that is the starting QB then they're also all over last year's playoff team. Who knows what happens if that kick isn't blocked. It's not reasonable to be so thrilled last year about the team and then want to throw the entire FO into lake Michigan this year. Leave that bullshit to people like the Hawk.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

I have not said anywhere Pace should be fired. But it is certainly heading down that road.

Last year was awesome. What everyone forgets is the scapegoat kicker outscored the offense in the biggest game of the year. That should have been an eyebrow raiser but we Bears fans were all too overjoyed to finally have, what looked to be, a Super Bowl contender.

And we see what happened when the expectations were raised for this team. Hell, they won the final game by 2 points over a team that was playing their backups.

Next year is gonna be huge for this outfit.

Pace has had 4 top 10 1st round picks. Kevin White, Floyd, (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and Roquan. Does that scream competent GM ?

Every year is huge in the NFL.

And kickers are supposed to make 43 yarders. Nobody wants to hear Cody Parkey Redemption narratives.

I agree with most of this but the offensive failures are troubling when you look at his success on defense.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Also, that same kicker was given big money by Pace.