They've done everything extremely well for the past few seasons. When compared to the Cubs, it is simply night and day. While fans of either team have many reasons to be frustrated with ownership, the front offices are completely different stories.

The White Sox's rebuild tactics and their focus on developing and rewarding top prospects sets them apart. Any team can tear down and load a farm system. But you have to take a farm system and turn it into an extended competitive window. The Cubs window ended up being 3 years, arguably 4 years. The White Sox have essentially guaranteed themselves a 6 year window... possibly an 8 year window.

The big brother has been surpassed by the little brother.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Even I am struggling to complain about this offseason but I'm going to need to see them make the playoffs at least once before giving them any credit.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

The front office has acquired almost as much talent as possible. They "Spent the Cole money" on Gio, Robert, Abreu, Grandal, Keuchel, and Encarnacion. If they were going to spend $300 million this offseason, I am glad they spread it around and didn't put all their eggs in one basket. In large part, the front office has done nearly all they can off the field.

Now its up to the players and coaching staff to get things done on the field. I don't think its crazy at all to expecting nothing less than a World Series appearance over the next 2-3 seasons.


Not sure if IMU is trolling at all, but he's right with a lot of his post. I don't think little brother has surpassed big brother just yet. However the gap is getting closer by the day and if the Sox win another WS then I think you would have to say that the little brother is comfortably in the lead.

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Hard to argue.

The Sox have not hamstrung themselves giant contracts. Also have some potential flip candidates.

But like FF said, they have to get it done on the field.

It's not crazy. It needs to be the expectation. We've waited long enough. Anything less should be viewed as failure.

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

i think we're talking a minimum eight peat

Short of winning a pennant would likely be a failure. Even four or five straight 95 win division championship seasons would not be enough to overcome four or five straight ALCS losses IMO.

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Not even a slight element of trolling.

I am impressed (at a team with fewer resources being this effective).
I am pissed (at my favorite team and ownership).
I am annoyed (that the Cubs set themselves up so well from 2011-2015 and then shot themselves in the foot repeatedly).
I am frustrated (that the other team in town will go through an extended period of success while my team is on a self-imposed downswing).
I am happy (because maybe an extended period of success for the White Sox can hold the Cubs' feet to the fire and they can get this bullshit righted quickly).

I always liked Rick Hahn, and I've supported and defended him several times on this board, even if I've bad mouthed the rest of the Sox, Kenny and Reinsdorf. But I'm jealous. And I'm sickened by fans like the ones on BCB and Bleacher Nation having NYE parties where they started watching 2016 WS Game 7 at 7:04 PM so that Rizzo's putout lands right at midnight. STUPID. That was 2016...it sort of makes sense if that happened this year. But stop celebrating a fucking championship from 3+ years ago and LOOK FORWARD. Hold your current team accountable! Don't become the 85 Bears.

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Well said. IMU making a run at taking good dolphin's title as best baseball poster.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Then kudos to you on a well thought out post, IMU

As for the being happy bit, don't count on that. The Cubs being good did little to nothing for the Sox. They weren't going to win the World Series, but even them moving on from Robin Ventura would have improved things and they still didn't do that until his contract was up.

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ready to dust off my whitesox fandom... let's see good results in early april

I'm hoping the larger vocal Cubs fan base and the national exposure and increased local exposure would put pressure on the Cubs. The Athletic article - "How the Resource-Strapped White Sox Took Over the City" or some bullshit of that nature in 2023. If some tweener baseball fans like Nas start to push their numerous kids toward liking the White Sox...going to White Sox games... talking about the White Sox at school. I'm largely a Cubs fan because no one talked about the White Sox in school. They might as well have been another town's team.

Money starts flowing south instead of north and it could push the Cubs to fix their shit.

White Sox weren't motivated any earlier to get going because they hadn't lost anything they previously had.

IMO

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Not true, it got them to trade Eloy and Cease for Q.

Stupid fans, right there.

Great posts, IMU.

IMU was always the most gutless cucks of Cub fans. Good riddance.

Welcoming Frank to Packer Nation and IMU to the Subdivision in the span of a few months is a welcome development in their sports fandom.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Uh... Can we call a meeting on IMU being welcomed?

I tried to raise my kids (specifically my sons) to like all Chicago teams but failed with my oldest. He likes players and they're usually the ones I hate and he has no loyalty to Chicago teams but knows that he can't be too loud about it around me.

My youngest son screams "BEARS!!!" and really seems to be interested in all sports when he sits down for a couple of minutes. He'll be a fan of Chicago teams and not care about taking crap.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Sometimes you just have to cut bait on the bad apples and concentrate on the ones that can be saved.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

What happens if your oldest is too loud around you?

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They had it in 2005 and 2006. Then the Sox had a down year and the Cubs had back to back great years. 2 steps forward, 5 steps back and then some for the Pale Hose.

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Interesting thought on this off season. Hopefully that happens.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

DCFS could be reading the board.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

If they are they're probably already heading to your house for pushing your son to be a (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky fan.

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If you committed violence on that day, obviously, you shouldn’t be pardoned.- JD Vance on the J-6 insurrectionists

Grossman with my oldest

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

They have done very well. It is impressive.
But I'd say its time to get a real ass manager now if you want to win big.

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He'll be fired in the offseason unless he wins the WS.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Fuckin do it now. Why waste a year of competitiveness now? Abreau won't get better in 2021 than he is now. The window is opening. I want to see a guy willing to dive thru it and not bunt around it.

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Does Ozzie want the job? Who is available? It would be a really shitty thing to do now.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Yeah yeah its shitty who cares when you're on the cover of the sun times celebrating with beer all over your shirt.

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http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014