Just didn't feel well enough to employ him anymore.

Can you feel anymore poorly about a job that someone does than to fire them?

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Sometimes you need a scapegoat. Like Helfrich.

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During transition yesterday, Parkins mentioned to Thayer that Nagy is claiming Helfrich and Hiestand were in charge of the run game and everything that went with it. You would think a HC with offensive background would hire guys or have a say in blocking patterns and running plays.

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So the Bears hired their head coach based on his knowledge of offensive football, but the coach's knowledge of offensive football doesn't include the run game?

Wow.

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I don't really think is what is being said. Nagy has to delegate things. Obviously the guy has knowledge of the run game.

Now it is pretty crappy that these guys had to take the fall when clearly Nagy is the main offensive guy. But that is how things work. If they stand pat on the offensive side of the ball there is a big outcry that they should have made changes...how can they bring back everyone from a broken offense....etc

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So is it really Nagy's offense or not? Either way it's bad for Nagy. If it was his run game, then it sucked and he should be fired. If it wasn't why isn't he doing the job he was largely hired for--resurrecting the offense? We already know that Nagy has nothing to do with the defense, so it's not like he's overtaxed or something.

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Culture building is a full time job.

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The run game experienced its best results when it strayed away from Nagy’s philosophy. When Bears went power and I-Form the run game wasn’t too shabby

Clearly it is Nagys offense and I think we are going to see even more of his offense next year as he seems to be doubling down on what he wants to do.

I think Olin Kruetz was probably right and there was major philosophical differences between Nagy and Hiestand. Nagy prob wanted different opinions and then realized that he really didn't want them.

In the big picture this is probably best. This next year will tell the tale. Either the offense and the run game will make major strides or Nagy will be launched.

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Nah I think the 3rd option is the most likely: Run game continues to suck, offense does slightly better, and Nagy easily keeps his job after a 10-6 year.

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10-6 is a pipe dream. Without a major over-haul of the offensive line which I doubt, this team doesn't win more than 6 games.

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Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

And we all know which party advocated for following the direction of the rest of the league and which wanted to stick to his zone-blocking dogma. They fired the wrong guys.

Nagy wants to win his way.

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You mean by having a really good defense and a minimally competent offense?

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He believes that his screen passes and his predictable plays will eventually work.

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Agreed. And in this respect he seems like more of an evangelist than a coach. He wants to prove the validity of his system rather than putting his players in a position where they are most likely to succeed.

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Amen

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He wants his offense to shine. And when I say "his" offense I dont necessarily mean the Bears offense. I mean the Nagy playbook and Nagy philosophy that he brought to Chicago twenty-four months ago. He wants to be the league catalyst.

If he could just abandon that ambition and take a look what is happening around him he could be a great coach, but he has shown no signs of allowing that. The firing of Helfrich and Heistand followed by the subsequent rationales presented to the media shows that he's going an extra step now to ensure that anyone who isn't an adherent to his system is purged. Not a great sign.

Nagy and Pace both want to be the smartest men in the room.

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Which is why he is likely fired this time next year.

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Didn't he have a 5 year deal?

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I do not see this with Pace at all whatsoever. He really does not try to break the mold much aside from a couple day two or day three draft picks.

Probably at a lower annual value. The actual terms of the deal are impossible to find.

Another year like this and he's gone. The Bears wont abide it, nor should they.

I don't see them firing anyone who has a winning record after a couple of years. The Bears would have to finish with 4 wins or less for the Bears to fire Nagy with 2 years left on his deal. He'll get a minimum of 4 years. That's when Pace's contract expires too.

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Taking Mitch over Watson qualifies. Everyone thought that was insane even at the time.

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Pace wont fire him. George will launch both with another year of 8-8 or worse year.

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Will Watson be upright in 5 years? Taking (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky over Mahomes is unforgivable when you were targeting both players. I believe that I read (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, Mahomes and McCaffrey were the top 3 players on their board.

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The wrong pick is different than trying to outsmart everyone. Being wary of Watson's medical situation was definitely prudent at the time.

Not Dan Durkin.

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Picking by far the least qualified and least accomplished QB of the top 3 sure seems like trying to outsmart everybody. After what Watson did to Alabama that pick was indefensible even at the time.

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