https://www.chicagobears.com/news/bears-ink-ex-college-hoops-player-as-tight-end

a basketball player who didnt even play college football... so clearly he's probably the 2nd best receiving TE on roster behind burton.

Guess they are looking for the next Antonio Gates

There's no real downside, give him a shot. 6-7 233, big hands. I'm sure he's already better than Shaheen.

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Well, at least you know he is a guy who is dedicated, as evidenced by the three colleges he played for over the years.

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He has to still add 20 pounds to even have a chance.

dude will quit after the first day of mini camp.

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I'm sure he's been working with trainers specifically for a football opportunity.

Kellen Davis vibe.

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Kind of embarrassing to watch Pace stumble around trying to find a TE, FA's have outplayed his draft picks to the point that he was eventually forced to admit he screwed up and shut Shaheen down. Why not just draft an experienced TE from a big time college program? He may not light it up at the combine, but at least he would have experience at the position.

Kellen Davis would be a godsend right now.

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Yeah if he is Kellen they awesome.

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Its January 8th. Calm the hell down. Free agency doesn't open for two more months and the draft is not until more than a month after that. You're really looking for reasons to be upset if you are claiming that some guy signed to a futures contract a week after the season ended is cause for the Bears office being humiliated.

As for the tight end position, the guy currently rostered that should be drawing the keenest interest is Dax Raymond.

mully was on yesterday AM with Biggs going through how horrific Pace's drafting has been.

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Relative to the rest of the league it has been fine. Show me a team that's been better.

Vikings, for one. There are probably 20 other teams.

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Since 2015? No, they have not been better than the Bears at drafting.

here are the bears picks over the past four years. Add the rights to pay Khalil Mack one billion/year

David Montgomery
Riley Ridley
Duke Shelley
Kerrith Whyte
Stephen Denmark

Roquan Smith
James Daniels
Anthony Miller
Joel Iyiegbuniwe
Bilal Nichols
Kylie Fitts
Javon Wims

Mitchell (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky
Adam Shaheen
Eddie Jackson
Tarik Cohen
Jordan Morgan

Leonard Floyd
Cody Whitehair
Jonathan Bullard
Nick Kwiatkoski
Deon Bush
Deiondre' Hall
Jordan Howard
DeAndre Houston-Carson
Daniel Braverman

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Yes, they have. I've listed my thoughts on hits, misses and to be decideds for both. Each player has the round drafted next to them, and I put them in each list based on reasonable expectations per round drafted. I've left off players drafted in later rounds with no expectations or who have not had chances to get into games due to being position blocked.

BEARS

Hits:

Adrian Amos (5th)
Cody Whitehair (2nd)
Nick Kwiatkoski (4th)
Eddie Jackson (4th)
Tarik Cohen (4th)
Roquan Smith (1st)
Anthony Miller (2nd)
Javon Wims (7th)

Misses:

Kevin White (1st)
Hroniss Grasu (3rd)
Leonard Floyd (1st)
Jonathan Bullard (3rd)
Adam Shaheen (2nd)

TBD:

Mitchell (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky (1st)
James Daniels (2nd)
David Montgomery (3rd)
Riley Ridley (4th)

VIKINGS

Hits:

Trae Waynes (1st)
Eric Kendricks (2nd)
Danielle Hunter (3rd)
Stefon Diggs (5th)
Stephen Weatherly (7th)
Jayron Kearse (7th)
Dalvin Cook (2nd)
Pat Elflein (3rd)
Ben Gedeon (4th)
Brian ONeill (2nd)
Garrett Bradbury (1st)
Alexander Mattison (3rd)

Misses:

T.J. Clemmings (4th)
Laquon Treadwell (1st)
Willie Beavers (4th)

TBD:

Jaleel Johnson (4th)
Mike Hughes (1st)
Irv Smith Jr (2nd)
Dru Samia (4th)

Also bonus points for Spielman signing undrafted free agent Anthony Harris, whom was tied for the league lead with 6 interceptions this season in his first full season starting.

And for the Vikings, I can go back pretty far to highlight good drafts since Rick Spielman has been here for awhile, and will be here for longer. His successes in the draft include 31 total Pro Bowls from the following: AP, Griffen, Thielen, Barr, Patterson, Rhodes, Smith, Kalil, Rudolph, Rice, Harvin. Probably more I'm not remembering.

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That is some hilariously biased accounting.

Floyd and Bullard were hits. They were not home runs but they were contributing players. Bears would not have parted with Bullard had they known how the injuries on the defensive line would play out, he had a pretty typical year for him in Arizona. Floyd is one of the better players drafted outside the top-five in the first round of that draft.

You also neglect to mention Bilal Nichols, Deon Bush and Jordan Howard as hits.

Meanwhile Dan Carlson is suspiciously absent from your list of Vikings misses despite being a particularly costly error. Its one thing to still be developing as a quarterback from the 2017 draft, but Jaleel Johnson is probably past the point of "TBD". Not so sure about Mike Hughes either, but I take less issue with that.

I missed Jordan Howard, and that is my bad. He is a hit.

If Bilal Nichols is a hit, then so is Jaleel Johnson as Jaleel Johnson was more effective in less snaps.

Deon Bush as a hit? Please let me know which of his 2 passes defenced, 1 sack and 18 total tackles in the last 3 years is your favorite? If we list him anywhere, he is a miss. I'm not listing him because he plays limited snaps - he is position blocked.

I can add Dan Carlson as a miss.

Leonard Floyd was a ninth overall pick. With those expectations, he is a miss. The Bears will be paying him $13M next season. His last 3 seasons were 4.5 sacks, 4 sacks and 3 sacks. 40 combined tackles. 0 forced fumbles. He is a miss, and any Bears fan that wants to argue that is sadly lying to themselves.

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Nobody cares about your football statistics. Really, they could not be more worthless.

Start listing players drafted after Leonard Floyd (and before the second round) that you'd rather have. I'm excited to hear them.

IMU assessment of Pace's drafting is actually pretty legit. I'd even call it optimistic given WHERE (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was drafted and what they gave up and still calling it TBD. I'm also putting Roquan Smith in TBD. He's had some flashes, but not enough to say he was a hit.
I'd also call it not an impressive resume. It needs to be better.

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Roquan Smith really hasnt showed you enough but Garrett Bradbury and Brain O'Neill have? Give me a fucking break. You are not saying Pace needs to "be better", you are saying he needs to be "the best" and if you're gonna fire him for not achieving that you're gonna spend generations searching for the guy who will be. Love the girl ya got.

O'Neill playing 95% of offensive snaps and Elflein moving over to LG with Bradbury at C has vastly improved the Vikings offensive line.

In 2018, the Vikings were one of the worst teams in 3rd down conversion, 4th down conversion and red zone conversion. In 2019, they were in the Top 10 in all categories. The Vikings also reduced their percentage of times sacked on pass attempts by almost a full percentage point and also became Top 10 in this category in 2019. The Vikings scored on 41.2% of drives (ranked 6th) in 2019 after having only done so on 32.4% last season (ranked 23rd).

Same QB. Same receivers. Same RB (for most of the season).

The Vikings' OL improvement is the most significant reason the offense took another step this season. And this was despite a big injury to Thielen.

But if you want to pull an LTG and claim statistics are meaningless and not a representation of what actually happens on the field, feel free.

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Vikings OL is probably the biggest reason they are a 6 seed and not a 2 seed. GB absolutely ate their lunch in both matchups this year.

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Improvement does not mean they went 'worst to first.' It just means they were way better than the previous season, which was one of the worst offensive lines I can remember.

We can talk about the basketball player if you want. Bears want the next Rudolph.

https://youtu.be/koV6ho2zHdQ?t=36

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(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is a miss. Which is a double whammy because he isn't the franchise QB, and there was a ton of draft capital moved in order to jump one spot to take him.

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Ryan Pace is 35-45
He did inherit a mess, so if you wan to look at his last 3 seasons he's 26-22. It would appear to me he's created his own personal brand new mess. The offense is in really bad shape and he has no draft capital to fix it.

Of course I want the best....but sorry...that's not even "good".

When the (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky pick happened....EVERYONE said (rightfully)...this pick is going to define his career. It's not looking so good.

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And some would argue that he sold his soul (sold a bit of the franchise's future) for some immediate success to get that 26-22 in recent seasons. He traded a lot of future capital for Mack and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

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Gonna occupy some space between Delaney (always extreme) and IMU here. As usual Delaney completely ignores how this championship caliber defense has Ryan Pace's fingerprints over like 95 percent of it. He's accountable for the horrible offense and QB but he's positioned the Bears for sustained success on the defense side. It's inarguable that Pace did a good job here.

Gonna disagree with IMU that it's a bad thing that Pace traded picks for Mack. Mack was in his prime at the time of the trade and paid justifiable dividends and continues to do so. Your future is more or less guaranteed in baseball and basketball save for the rare catastrophic injury but in the NFL there's enormous risk from game to game let alone season to season so arguably every season is win now given the uncertainty of tomorrow. Again the Bears' failures this year and last are 100 percent on the lack of firepower on offense.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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