Seen a few ideas thrown around about hiring Pat Shurmur as O.C. and how it would benefit the development of (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. Thoughts?

Not sure why he would come here unless there's no market for him. Going to be an O.C. in name only unless Nagy relents.

Which is what I am hoping for. At least give Shurmur a lot more leeway working with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

I'm hoping for it to. If they are keeping Mitch, it has to happen.

All depends on if he is allowed to call plays. Been reading that the Bears OC job is a tough sell because of the uncertain futures of Pace/Nagy, but if you come in and can bring the offense up from bottom 5 to top top 15-20 you look like a genius because you have likely coached up the QB position to a point of competence.

Gase has gotten two HC jobs just for making Cutler adequate

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You are kidding yourself if you think the new OC will be anything other than an in house guy or a Nagy crony. Rinse and repeat at Halas Hall.

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Sad but most likely true. Would be nice to see something proactive happen and hire someone like Shurmur though.

Courtesy of DaWindyCity.com

Chicago Bears: Clancy Barone hire hints Pat Shurmur is next
The Chicago Bears filled their vacancy at the tight ends coaching position with Clancy Barone, and his hiring could mean Pat Shurmur is next.

General manager Ryan Pace opened his offseason by firing a few assistant coaches, including offensive line coach Harry Hiestand and offensive coordinator Mark Helfrich. The Chicago Bears had yet to fill these spots, until Thursday afternoon.

Pace decided on veteran coach Clancy Barone to fill the tight ends coaching spot.

After spending a year out of coaching, Barone returns to the NFL under Matt Nagy and will take over a group that includes: Trey Burton, Adam Shaheen, Ben Braunecker, J.P. Holtz and Jesper Horsted. This is definitely a position of need going into free agency and the draft, and Barone will likely be working closely with Pace to address it.

The Barone hire is very intriguing, because his last job was working as both the offensive line coach and tight ends coach with the Minnesota Vikings. He handled the tight ends in 2017 and the offensive line in 2018.

In 2017, the Vikings’ offensive coordinator so happened to be Pat Shurmur — so the two certainly have a connection.

Don’t forget, Shurmur and Nagy also have a connection dating back to their days with the Philadelphia Eagles.

With Barone on board, now, I would not be shocked if the Bears bring in Shurmur to fill Helfich’s shoes as the team’s offensive coordinator. The real question, going forward, is whether or not Helfrich’s replacement will be calling plays.

Whomever the Bears hire to take over as offensive coordinator will immediately face that question. Will Nagy decide to pull back and focus more on head coaching duties, while allowing his new coordinator to call plays?

Many Bears fans would agree that the Bears would benefit from Nagy making that tough decision. He’s an incredible head coach when it comes to building a positive culture and bringing people together — Nagy is a leader of men.

But, it’s the play-calling which needs improving. Hopefully, Barone can help in that some respect. His experience with coaching both the offensive line and tight ends most recently in Minnesota speaks to two of the biggest issues on offense for the Bears. Stay tuned, as we’re hoping to hear news on the offensive coordinator in the near future — and it very well could be Shurmur.

I have no desire to see Shurmur hired nor do I have a big problem if he is. It does make sense after that piece that they worked together in Philly. What also doesn't bother me much is the big play calling debate. I do not think there is any way Nagy gives it up. That said having Shurmur (assuming they respect each other) around to help him design a game plan, script the early game and more importantly learn better play pacing it could be a plus.

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I'd rather Nagy name one of his sheep as OC. I don't want there to be any more scapegoats when the offense continues to suck in 2020.

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It is also possible Pace wants two choices if Nagy shits the bed. Mid season he can choose Pagano or Shurmur.

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I do not view Shurmur as head coach material. Perfect fit as OC to work with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. I would take Pagano as HC over Shurmur any day.

That is a good point.

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Agreed Pagano over Shurmer as interim.
Nagy will still have 2 seasons after 2020.....canning him would be highly unlikely. After 2020, Pace will only have one year left on his contract....he'll need to be more worried about his own ass....an ass is the one that personally selected Nagy.

2020 means way more to Pace than anyone else.

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Irrelevant. Stranger things have happened. Shurmur signed a 5 year contract with the Giants and he was fired after 2 seasons.

I believe Trestman was fired with 2 yrs left. It' possible. If Nagy coaches like he did 2019 it would be justified. Still....the Bears will be the Bears. They love Pace. They probably love Nagy. They could be 8-8 in 2020 with Mitch still looking average at best and not developed and still extend Pace (facepam).

and before Antartica comes in calling me a miserable Bears fan.... I am. There's a legacy of shit to justify it.

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Nagy is going to fail unless they address the OC position significantly. Working with the same formula the past 2 seasons will get us nowhere. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, Nagy and Pace are all liabilities, and one, hopefully 2 will be out of the job with us before the end of next season (Nagy, and hopefully (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky) - unless they hire Shurmur or someone who can work with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and develop him properly.

He's not coming if he can't call plays.

I think that Nagy is going to be fired next season. A helluva lot is going to depend on what Pace does with free agency and the draft and his options are limited there unless he doesn't possibly trade Mack for money and draft picks. I am not advocating that BTW but I think that is a possibility with how dismal the offensive personnel that he has really are. I also think that he may face a player revolt next season with the defense pissed off by their inept offense. Somehow I do not think that Mack wants to pay for a losing team which all indications are to me that the Bears will be next season.

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I would be a lot more confident in (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky if we hired Shurmur as OC and made Pagano the new HC.

Bears are about to lose Shurmur to the Broncos.

Nagy is going to hire Young Sheldon as our OC.

Makes no difference.

Nagy is going to go down in flames running "his offense".