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Coby will start tomorrow night


Can't seem to find any confirmation of that. Maybe you can provide it.

I'm the only source you need my man.

But here ya go


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Coby will start tomorrow night


Can't seem to find any confirmation of that. Maybe you can provide it.

I'm the only source you need my man.

But here ya go



I'm all for benching that bum Satoransky. SCore another one for me as I told MANY on here that he was nothing more than a mere backup during the summertime. He stinks too.

Kris Dunn should have been the starting point guard from the get go.


Lets see what the kid does but it is awfully interesting (though not surprising) that MANY here were conspicuously silent while the kid played horribly for most of the season.

Dunn is out and last I checked so is Lavine.

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I'd much rather have Shake Milton on the Bulls as opposed to Coby White.

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I'd much rather have Shake Milton on the Bulls as opposed to Coby White.


what does that have to do with the time of day?

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 Post subject: Re: Coby White
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I'd much rather have Shake Milton on the Bulls as opposed to Coby White.


what does that have to do with the time of day?


Just merely an observation and how good can he actually be if a late 2nd round pick is much better than him?

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 Post subject: Re: Coby White
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I'd much rather have Shake Milton on the Bulls as opposed to Coby White.


what does that have to do with the time of day?


Why were you silent for over 3 months regarding Coby White's greatness if he is in fact so great? Were you out of the country or something?

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I'd much rather have Shake Milton on the Bulls as opposed to Coby White.


what does that have to do with the time of day?


Why were you silent for over 3 months regarding Coby White's greatness if he is in fact so great? Were you out of the country or something?


I think it's been pointed out several times that he's a rookie, and that outside of some sure bets, rookies tend to struggle. Are you of the belief that rookies must be evaluated in their first month and are not able to be re-evaluated at any point ever ?


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Markelle Fultz's win share totals

2.6

Coby White's win share totals

1.0

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 Post subject: Re: Coby White
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I'd much rather have Shake Milton on the Bulls as opposed to Coby White.


what does that have to do with the time of day?


Why were you silent for over 3 months regarding Coby White's greatness if he is in fact so great? Were you out of the country or something?


I think it's been pointed out several times that he's a rookie, and that outside of some sure bets, rookies tend to struggle. Are you of the belief that rookies must be evaluated in their first month and are not able to be re-evaluated at any point ever ?



Its fine if they are evaluated later. Its not fine if they are only evaluated when they play well. Seems to be the motif of Imu and a few others around here.

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your line of discussion is all over the map. I always liked the guy, though admittedly he shot really terribly for a couple of months. Hopefully what we're seeing now is not just an aberration.

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 Post subject: Re: Coby White
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your line of discussion is all over the map. I always liked the guy, though admittedly he shot really terribly for a couple of months. Hopefully what we're seeing now is not just an aberration.


Nah I'm not. I have been fairly consistent with my evaluation of him. When people thought he was "great' after two games I still didn't think he was shit. I never shied away from "evaluating" him like MANY others on here happened to do.

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LTG - Do you really need an explanation for why a fanbase would talk more about a rookie when he's doing well as opposed to when he's struggling?

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Markelle Fultz's win share totals

2.6

Coby White's win share totals

1.0


Now do Trae's!


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LTG - Do you really need an explanation for why a fanbase would talk more about a rookie when he's doing well as opposed to when he's struggling?


Nah they ignored him for over 3 months and most on here (including you) never miss a chance to tell the world just how little of a fan you are of the Bulls these days. WYC?

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 Post subject: Re: Coby White
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KDdidit wrote:
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Markelle Fultz's win share totals

2.6

Coby White's win share totals

1.0


Now do Trae's!


Now look and see who happens to be "all over the map"

Care to look at last year's Trae Young Win Share totals? They aren't much better than Fultz's are currently. This despite the fact that the Magic haven't really featured Fultz all that much. The Magic are allowing him to develop while trying to play winning basketball.

Atlanta doesn't care about winning. Neither does Trae.

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KDdidit wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Markelle Fultz's win share totals

2.6

Coby White's win share totals

1.0


Now do Trae's!


Now look and see who happens to be "all over the map"


It's you, duh.


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LTG - Do you really need an explanation for why a fanbase would talk more about a rookie when he's doing well as opposed to when he's struggling?


Nah they ignored him for over 3 months and most on here (including you) never miss a chance to tell the world just how little of a fan you are of the Bulls these days. WYC?

I'm always a huge Bulls fan, that will never change. I'm just not watching any games this year. I'll come back next year when Boylen and GarPax are gone. the WYC doesn't apply here my friend.

I was just asking you a simple question. It stands to reason that fans will talk more about a rookie if he's showing a lot of promise than if he's not, there's no grand conspiracy behind it

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 Post subject: Re: Coby White
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LTG - Do you really need an explanation for why a fanbase would talk more about a rookie when he's doing well as opposed to when he's struggling?


Nah they ignored him for over 3 months and most on here (including you) never miss a chance to tell the world just how little of a fan you are of the Bulls these days. WYC?

I'm always a huge Bulls fan, that will never change. I'm just not watching any games this year. I'll come back next year when Boylen and GarPax are gone. the WYC doesn't apply here my friend.

I was just asking you a simple question. It stands to reason that fans will talk more about a rookie if he's showing a lot of promise than if he's not, there's no grand conspiracy behind it


Yeah but you cannot ignore the "when he is not" part when the shit lasts for over 3 months. This isn't a game to game thing. He sucked for the majority of the season and this latest spell doesn't discount that.

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 Post subject: Re: Coby White
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KDdidit wrote:
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Markelle Fultz's win share totals

2.6

Coby White's win share totals

1.0


Now do Trae's!


Now look and see who happens to be "all over the map"


It's you, duh.


Nah you brought up Trae Young.

Do you think Coby WHite is somehow good? Simple yes or no will suffice.

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LTG - Do you really need an explanation for why a fanbase would talk more about a rookie when he's doing well as opposed to when he's struggling?


Nah they ignored him for over 3 months and most on here (including you) never miss a chance to tell the world just how little of a fan you are of the Bulls these days. WYC?

I'm always a huge Bulls fan, that will never change. I'm just not watching any games this year. I'll come back next year when Boylen and GarPax are gone. the WYC doesn't apply here my friend.

I was just asking you a simple question. It stands to reason that fans will talk more about a rookie if he's showing a lot of promise than if he's not, there's no grand conspiracy behind it


Yeah but you cannot ignore the "when he is not" part when the shit lasts for over 3 months. This isn't a game to game thing. He sucked for the majority of the season and this latest spell doesn't discount that.

It doesn't wash it away but it's a start. He can now be considered promising again. If he continued to suck there wouldn't be any reason for optimism going forward. At least now there's a little bit.

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LTG - Do you really need an explanation for why a fanbase would talk more about a rookie when he's doing well as opposed to when he's struggling?


Nah they ignored him for over 3 months and most on here (including you) never miss a chance to tell the world just how little of a fan you are of the Bulls these days. WYC?

I'm always a huge Bulls fan, that will never change. I'm just not watching any games this year. I'll come back next year when Boylen and GarPax are gone. the WYC doesn't apply here my friend.

I was just asking you a simple question. It stands to reason that fans will talk more about a rookie if he's showing a lot of promise than if he's not, there's no grand conspiracy behind it


Yeah but you cannot ignore the "when he is not" part when the shit lasts for over 3 months. This isn't a game to game thing. He sucked for the majority of the season and this latest spell doesn't discount that.

It doesn't wash it away but it's a start. He can now be considered promising again. If he continued to suck there wouldn't be any reason for optimism going forward. At least now there's a little bit.


He is playing better but for me his ceiling is still rather low. There are too many things for him to correct in order for him to be considered good.

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Markelle Fultz's win share totals

2.6

Coby White's win share totals

1.0


Now do Trae's!


Now look and see who happens to be "all over the map"


It's you, duh.


Nah you brought up Trae Young.

Do you think Coby WHite is somehow good? Simple yes or no will suffice.


Just like when you brought up Anthony Bennett.


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Yes, Coby White is good. Yes, Coby White experienced a ton of rookie growing pains, while also displaying that he is full of potential.

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Yes, Coby White is good. Yes, Coby White experienced a ton of rookie growing pains, while also displaying that he is full of potential.


He works hard, stays positive, tries on defense. MANY good signs.

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Yes, Coby White is good. Yes, Coby White experienced a ton of rookie growing pains, while also displaying that he is full of potential.


The essence of IMU. Hall of Fame Carmelo not good. NBA bum Coby White good. Imu you are another dude that ducked the Coby talk for 3 months. You have no credibility. When he stunk which was most of his rookie season you were MIA. Now he is good. Ok sure he is. 8 games is an extremely small sample size. 50 games is much more indicative of who he happens to be.

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KDdidit wrote:
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KDdidit wrote:
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Markelle Fultz's win share totals

2.6

Coby White's win share totals

1.0


Now do Trae's!


Now look and see who happens to be "all over the map"


It's you, duh.


Nah you brought up Trae Young.

Do you think Coby WHite is somehow good? Simple yes or no will suffice.


Just like when you brought up Anthony Bennett.


Ok so you are another person that believes he is good but you will only proclaim it when he has a good game or two.

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When he stunk which was most of his rookie season you were MIA. Now he is good. Ok sure he is. 8 games is an extremely small sample size. 50 games is much more indicative of who he happens to be.

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Fultz with 24 and 5 on Friday. 18 and 5 yesterday. Both blowout wins while only playing 27 minutes in each. He is starting to turn it on it appears.

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When he stunk which was most of his rookie season you were MIA. Now he is good. Ok sure he is. 8 games is an extremely small sample size. 50 games is much more indicative of who he happens to be.

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Fultz with 24 and 5 on Friday. 18 and 5 yesterday. Both blowout wins while only playing 27 minutes in each. He is starting to turn it on it appears.


Fultz has been a much better player than Coby White has this season. Coby White has been terrible a whole lot longer than he has been good.

Fultz has a 2.6 WS

White has a 1.0 WS this season.


Fultz has been solid all season. Few games where he hasn't been productive. Mostly consistent. White has been atrocious. Check the numbers. He still is shooting less than 40% for the season.

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Fultz has been a better point guard but Coby has trended better as a combo guard for the last month or so.

SPLITS - Last Ten Games
Coby White
MIN. 33.5
FG% 46.0
3P% 40.7
FT % 91.9
REB 3.8
AST 4.5
BLK 0.2
STL 1.2
TO 2.1
PTS 24.1

Markelle Fultz
MIN. 29.8
FG% 54.1
3P% 15.8
FT % 64.0
REB 2.7
AST 7.0
BLK 0.1
STL 1.0
TO 2.0
PTS 13.7

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Fultz has been a better point guard but Coby has trended better as a combo guard for the last month or so.

SPLITS - Last Ten Games
Coby White
MIN. 33.5
FG% 46.0
3P% 40.7
FT % 91.9
REB 3.8
AST 4.5
BLK 0.2
STL 1.2
TO 2.1
PTS 24.1

Markelle Fultz
MIN. 29.8
FG% 54.1
3P% 15.8
FT % 64.0
REB 2.7
AST 7.0
BLK 0.1
STL 1.0
TO 2.0
PTS 13.7


The problem for Coby White is that he had those other 50 games or so where he just shit the bed


Those can't be discounted. When the Bulls were in playoff contention he gave them nothing

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