I agree that the Chiefs are better than the Bears.

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Agreed, Mitch sucks. I've just heard people react to that quote by saying "OMG he was that good and didn't even know how to read defenses, imagine how good he will be when he can!" when that's clearly not the case.

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You don't think Mitch sucks. We argued that point all winter and you were a staunch Mitch supporter.

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I have a feeling your definition of staunch Mitch supporter is gonna be a bad one

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listening to him speak, he sounds dumb as a box of rocks. You'd think that might have been a concern before the draft. but then Pace sounds like an idiot too. Probably why he loved him.

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He was just playing possum. He's sneaky smrt.

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The numbers have been crunched, the films watched.. Mitch two closest comps are..

Jake Locker
Josh Freeman

https://sportsmockery.com/2020/03/mitch ... and-yikes/

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veganfan would cut (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and not take the free year of his services even as the third string quarterback. So don't feel too bad.

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Nobody gives a shit about the third string QB. Your argument for keeping (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky as the starter just because it doesn't cost anything basically is the definition of missing the forest for the trees.

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Mitch sucks and is a Nazi, now end this horrible thread.

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You were in Mitch's corner, have you come around and agree he sucks?

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I have a feeling your definition of being in Mitch’s corner is a bad one.

He has potential. There probably isn’t an upgrade available. That’s probably the most complimentary I’ve been of him.

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Is Mitch a starter in 2021 ?
Is Mitch on the bears in 2021?

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The only chance Mitch has of being a starter is here. When we finally move on from him, he will be a career back up.

Yes, agreed.. just want to gauge FF stock in this buster.

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I am sure everyone has their own opinion, but my prediction is he ends up starting this year for us, and is a back up elsewhere in 2021.

You think he's benched at sometime this season?

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Honestly, it all depends on these QB rumors. If we end up bringing in a veteran QB, then I would predict he is benched by mid-season (maybe earlier), if we have no real back up competition, I think he will ride out the season.

You take the chance to see if he improves in year 4 instead of saving 0 dollars by cutting him. It's a no brainier.

Why are you saying he has to be the starter?

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Lost in your reasoning is the enormous opportunity cost of wasting the SB-caliber defense while you "take the chance" on Mitch. Screw chance and screw Mitch. Optimize your team's chances of winning now. That calculus doesn't include taking a chance on Mitch.

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I can't see Nagy going into camp without a plan B, he knows Mitch is too dumb for his offense and isn't good enough to start. Nagy won't get another HC job if this ends badly.

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Yeah true.... but the caliber of plan B is what I am wondering. If there is any truth to the rumors about Carr, (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky may be benched from day 1. A lower caliber plan B, may just wait on the bench until Mitch fails by week 6-8.

There is no chance being taken. He costs you absolutely nothing. You can get any other quarterback in the league just as easily.

You are misusing opportunity cost. If they could cut (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, save $15 million, and go sign Tom Brady, or Teddy Bridgewater, or your guy Eli Manning then yes there would be an opportunity cost. There is no savings if they cut (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. So, you bring (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky back for next season and go after whatever quarterback you can afford instead of cutting (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and going after whatever quarterback you can afford with the same exact amount to spend.

Even if there is a 1% chance he is as good as he was as a sophomore you have to keep him.

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I'm not misusing anything. Not going to the SB because of poor QB play is the cost you incur as a result of playing (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. That already played out last year when we went 8-8 only due to poor offense. Better offense would have meant a playoff birth at the very least. This is the opportunity cost of playing (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

There is nothing logically wrong with your argument in a vacuum. When viewed against the bigger picture you'll find that you are too fixated on cap numbers and discounts at the expense of actually winning games in 2020.

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We aren't talking about playing him. We are talking about giving him a roster spot. Go get a better QB if you can. You aren't getting 3 better ones this year.

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IMO you optimize the SB chances by sticking with Mitch and filling the other holes: O-line, WR, TE. Then design a simplified offense based on what Mitch can handle.

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This doesn't matter if guys are getting open and Mitch either doesn't see them, or overthrows them. We have seen a lot of both from Mitch over his two years as a starter under Nagy.

There might be an upgrade. Maybe Carr is better. Maybe Dalton is better. I highly doubt it, but there is a slight chance that Winston is better. Hell, maybe Fromm or another QB in the draft is better.

Fact is that the Bears cannot go into camp with Mitch automatically listed as the #1. Whoever the other QB is, if he were to out play and out practice Mitch during the preseason and training camp, should be starting game 1 in September.

Cutting Mitch makes no sense at this time. Worse case he is the #2 or #3 QB on the 2020 Bears.

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Of course fixing the QB situation is the surest route to get there but it is also the toughest to accomplish. I am just trying the be realistic. They don't have to improve dramatically to be in the SB hunt - a middle of the road offense and top 3 D puts you in position.

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You're right. They were mediocre QB play away from the playoffs last year. Its sickening to think that even with all of the other under performers, injuries, and bad coaching from last year that all Mitch had to do was be the 15th or 16th best QB in the NFL and the Bears are playing again on WC Weekend.

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Zippy - this is why you don't stick with Mitch as starter. To repeat history is to be negligent in your duties on the part of Pace.

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