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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:35 pm 
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So this is really a 2 year 30 million dollar deal? The other 40 is not guaranteed.

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I don't mind this move.. if he stays healthy, he can get after the QB. And, its only a 2 year deal really. The Bears needed to add a pass rusher this off season and they did.

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So this is really a 2 year 30 million dollar deal? The other 40 is not guaranteed.


I'd say 3 year deal and yes gone..it's a good deal for everyone.

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I think this was a solid move. If we can bring in a legit QB to push (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and a guard, we are a playoff team this year.


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I think this was a solid move. If we can bring in a legit QB to push (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and a guard, we are a playoff team this year.


Come-on. With those two Offensive Tackles?

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I think this was a solid move. If we can bring in a legit QB to push (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and a guard, we are a playoff team this year.


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PortageP_Chi wrote:
I think this was a solid move. If we can bring in a legit QB to push (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and a guard, we are a playoff team this year.


Come-on. With those two Offensive Tackles?


Massie and Leno aren't great, they'll be much better this year though.

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I think this was a solid move. If we can bring in a legit QB to push (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and a guard, we are a playoff team this year.


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Who was the guard?
Who was the legit QB? :wink:

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312player wrote:
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PortageP_Chi wrote:
I think this was a solid move. If we can bring in a legit QB to push (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and a guard, we are a playoff team this year.


Come-on. With those two Offensive Tackles?


Massie and Leno aren't great, they'll be much better this year though.


This.

Ok, they sucked last year. They have a longer history of being league average and I expect them to return to that.

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Leno was among the worst starting players in the NFL last year. He absolutely must go.


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The Hawk wrote:
PortageP_Chi wrote:
I think this was a solid move. If we can bring in a legit QB to push (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and a guard, we are a playoff team this year.


Come-on. With those two Offensive Tackles?


We were not THAT far off from making the playoffs last year. Our tackles will be better this year, add Quinn as a huge upgrade over Floyd, a slight upgrade at TE, Foles to push (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.... now if we can only add a guard, we are a definite playoff contender.


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312player wrote:
PortageP_Chi wrote:
I think this was a solid move. If we can bring in a legit QB to push (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and a guard, we are a playoff team this year.


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Foles is a QB, not sure if I would consider him legit. Even if he is, still no Guard.


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312player wrote:
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PortageP_Chi wrote:
I think this was a solid move. If we can bring in a legit QB to push (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and a guard, we are a playoff team this year.


Come-on. With those two Offensive Tackles?


Massie and Leno aren't great, they'll be much better this year though.


This.

Ok, they sucked last year. They have a longer history of being league average and I expect them to return to that.

So you just think that by basically coincidence they both sucked last year and they will somehow be better this year? That seems like a pretty big gamble at such an important position.

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312player wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
PortageP_Chi wrote:
I think this was a solid move. If we can bring in a legit QB to push (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and a guard, we are a playoff team this year.


Come-on. With those two Offensive Tackles?


Massie and Leno aren't great, they'll be much better this year though.


They are the worst tandem of tackles on the planet. How are they going to be better?

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312player wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
PortageP_Chi wrote:
I think this was a solid move. If we can bring in a legit QB to push (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and a guard, we are a playoff team this year.


Come-on. With those two Offensive Tackles?


Massie and Leno aren't great, they'll be much better this year though.


This.

Ok, they sucked last year. They have a longer history of being league average and I expect them to return to that.

So you just think that by basically coincidence they both sucked last year and they will somehow be better this year? That seems like a pretty big gamble at such an important position.


It would be one thing if both of those slobs were injured last year and were good before their injury. But, they weren't lousy because of injury because they were lousy because that was all they could do. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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The Hawk wrote:
This will be valueless unless he fixes the offensive line. If they do not replace Leno, Massie, and Long with three good offensive linemen, they don't even get to .500 next year.


They were never going to be able to re-tool the entire offensive line. They will probably add another lower cost free agent option and use the draft to add depth.


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RFDC wrote:
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312player wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
PortageP_Chi wrote:
I think this was a solid move. If we can bring in a legit QB to push (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and a guard, we are a playoff team this year.


Come-on. With those two Offensive Tackles?


Massie and Leno aren't great, they'll be much better this year though.


This.

Ok, they sucked last year. They have a longer history of being league average and I expect them to return to that.

So you just think that by basically coincidence they both sucked last year and they will somehow be better this year? That seems like a pretty big gamble at such an important position.


You're right. It would be one thing if they had some bad injuries to take them from good to awful but they didn't. First of all, neither of them were ever good. They were bad when healthy and worse when hurt. Just wishing for some kind of magic beans to make them better is ludicrous.
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This will be valueless unless he fixes the offensive line. If they do not replace Leno, Massie, and Long with three good offensive linemen, they don't even get to .500 next year.


They were never going to be able to re-tool the entire offensive line. They will probably add another lower cost free agent option and use the draft to add depth.


Sure they could have if they tried to. Look at all of the money that was spent on defense and the TE position but not a red cent spent on two OTs and a Guard. I think that Pace is a blithering asshole. I think that he is refusing to admit that he f*d up when he re-signed those two tackles and didn't bring in another guard last year as a replacement for Kyle Long.

Forget about "adding another low cost free agent option and using the draft to add depth". They need three STARTERS at those positions, not bargain basement stiffs worse than Long, Massie, and Leno. The Bears offense is doomed. :eye: :eye: :eye:

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