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FF ducking the question.. would would your guy MVP Mitch bring back in a trade?


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I'd say that Sean Payton would love to get him on the Saints for life after Drew and the fact that he lost Bridgewater.


I would disagree. He may want him on the Saints as a back up, but definitely not to take over for Brees when he retires.


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FF ducking the question.. would would your guy MVP Mitch bring back in a trade?


Nothing.


I'd say that Sean Payton would love to get him on the Saints for life after Drew and the fact that he lost Bridgewater.


I would disagree. He may want him on the Saints as a back up, but definitely not to take over for Brees when he retires.


For sure he'd go there as a back-up but I think Brees is pretty much on his last legs as a starter and I think that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky might thrive with Payton coaching him and calling the plays. I think that Payton has the best offensive mind in football with the possible exception being Andy Reid and the Bears have totally wasted Mitch's talent since he was drafted.

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FF ducking the question.. would would your guy MVP Mitch bring back in a trade?


Nothing.


I'd say that Sean Payton would love to get him on the Saints for life after Drew and the fact that he lost Bridgewater.


I would disagree. He may want him on the Saints as a back up, but definitely not to take over for Brees when he retires.


For sure he'd go there as a back-up but I think Brees is pretty much on his last legs as a starter and I think that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky might thrive with Payton coaching him and calling the plays. I think that Payton has the best offensive mind in football with the possible exception being Andy Reid and the Bears have totally wasted Mitch's talent since he was drafted.


You may be right, but at this point, I doubt (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky will ever be a starter on any team in this league when he is done here. Lifetime back-up.


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PortageP_Chi wrote:
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FF ducking the question.. would would your guy MVP Mitch bring back in a trade?


Nothing.


I'd say that Sean Payton would love to get him on the Saints for life after Drew and the fact that he lost Bridgewater.


I would disagree. He may want him on the Saints as a back up, but definitely not to take over for Brees when he retires.


For sure he'd go there as a back-up but I think Brees is pretty much on his last legs as a starter and I think that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky might thrive with Payton coaching him and calling the plays. I think that Payton has the best offensive mind in football with the possible exception being Andy Reid and the Bears have totally wasted Mitch's talent since he was drafted.


You may be right, but at this point, I doubt (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky will ever be a starter on any team in this league when he is done here. Lifetime back-up.


At this point with the Bears and their screwed up management (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's best chance at being successful is if they either cut him or traded him to another team. HE has no chance with this offense and the lack of talent around him. The fact that they've blown whatever little money that they had on defensive players, has doomed the team to another .500 or less winning percentage. Nagy will be one of the first coaches fired this season and Pace will get axed as soon as the regular season is over.

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We were .500 last year, and with little changes we made this off season, it shows some improvement, plus Green Bay will be worse this year. We will be better than .500. I would not be surprised if we get 10-11 wins.


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At this point with the Bears and their screwed up management (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's best chance at being successful is if they either cut him or traded him to another team. HE has no chance with this offense and the lack of talent around him. The fact that they've blown whatever little money that they had on defensive players, has doomed the team to another .500 or less winning percentage. Nagy will be one of the first coaches fired this season and Pace will get axed as soon as the regular season is over.


This is a textbook example of blind faith. There's no metric anywhere that indicates this guy is nothing but an averaged QB at best. You've got nothing.

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At this point with the Bears and their screwed up management (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's best chance at being successful is if they either cut him or traded him to another team. HE has no chance with this offense and the lack of talent around him. The fact that they've blown whatever little money that they had on defensive players, has doomed the team to another .500 or less winning percentage. Nagy will be one of the first coaches fired this season and Pace will get axed as soon as the regular season is over.


This is a textbook example of blind faith. There's no metric anywhere that indicates this guy is nothing but an averaged QB at best. You've got nothing.


Nagy and Pace can be blamed for A LOT of things, but not for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's failure as a QB. You can blame them for drafting him, but not for how bad he is. He is not a starting cailber QB and never will be, no matter who he plays for.


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The Hawk wrote:
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FF ducking the question.. would would your guy MVP Mitch bring back in a trade?


Nothing.


I'd say that Sean Payton would love to get him on the Saints for life after Drew and the fact that he lost Bridgewater.


I would disagree. He may want him on the Saints as a back up, but definitely not to take over for Brees when he retires.


For sure he'd go there as a back-up but I think Brees is pretty much on his last legs as a starter and I think that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky might thrive with Payton coaching him and calling the plays. I think that Payton has the best offensive mind in football with the possible exception being Andy Reid and the Bears have totally wasted Mitch's talent since he was drafted.



I agree with the Brees is washed up, they have Hill as their next starter.. they ain't interested in Mitch.

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We were .500 last year, and with little changes we made this off season, it shows some improvement, plus Green Bay will be worse this year. We will be better than .500. I would not be surprised if we get 10-11 wins.


I doubt it. We, I guess, will know more after the draft. I just hate our offense and they have done nothing to change my mind about it being any better. As for Green Bay Bear fans have been saying that they will be worse repeatedly over the years and have been mostly wrong. Plus, the Vikings will probably be better.

I'll also say that if this team doesn't get off to a good start and the offense struggles, I think that there is a big possibility of the team splitting apart. This almost happened last season and I think that Nagy is going to have to really step up as the offensive guru he was hired to be.THEY NEED THREE OFFENSIVE LINEMEN. Especially two complete replacements at offensive tackle.

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Green Bay wasn't good last year, they won some close games..that's not happening this year. Their Defense is garbage, Rodgers is in decline.

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At this point with the Bears and their screwed up management (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's best chance at being successful is if they either cut him or traded him to another team. HE has no chance with this offense and the lack of talent around him. The fact that they've blown whatever little money that they had on defensive players, has doomed the team to another .500 or less winning percentage. Nagy will be one of the first coaches fired this season and Pace will get axed as soon as the regular season is over.


This is a textbook example of blind faith. There's no metric anywhere that indicates this guy is nothing but an averaged QB at best. You've got nothing.


Call it whatever you want to. I think that there are other reasons why this offense sucks much more than who their quarterback is. IT is bad more because of the horrific blocking of the Oline, below average running backs, inane play calling by Nagy, weak TEs, and just an average receiving corps.

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At this point with the Bears and their screwed up management (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's best chance at being successful is if they either cut him or traded him to another team. HE has no chance with this offense and the lack of talent around him. The fact that they've blown whatever little money that they had on defensive players, has doomed the team to another .500 or less winning percentage. Nagy will be one of the first coaches fired this season and Pace will get axed as soon as the regular season is over.


This is a textbook example of blind faith. There's no metric anywhere that indicates this guy is nothing but an averaged QB at best. You've got nothing.


Nagy and Pace can be blamed for A LOT of things, but not for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's failure as a QB. You can blame them for drafting him, but not for how bad he is. He is not a starting cailber QB and never will be, no matter who he plays for.


See, I don't consider (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky a failure as a QB. He was clearly playing injured last season and played much better in the 2nd half of the season. Tell me something since I think that you are a good and knowledgeable football fan. Do you think that Mitch would play much better with two decent offensive tackles and a guard? Also, they just signed Nick Foles. Assuming the same three slugs blocking for Foles do you think that Foles will be any better than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and why?

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FF ducking the question.. would would your guy MVP Mitch bring back in a trade?


Nothing.


I'd say that Sean Payton would love to get him on the Saints for life after Drew and the fact that he lost Bridgewater.


I would disagree. He may want him on the Saints as a back up, but definitely not to take over for Brees when he retires.


For sure he'd go there as a back-up but I think Brees is pretty much on his last legs as a starter and I think that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky might thrive with Payton coaching him and calling the plays. I think that Payton has the best offensive mind in football with the possible exception being Andy Reid and the Bears have totally wasted Mitch's talent since he was drafted.



I agree with the Brees is washed up, they have Hill as their next starter.. they ain't interested in Mitch.


Are you sure that they think that Hill will be their next qb? I don't see it. Hill is awesome in the role that he plays. HE is a terrific athlete. But I don't think that he would be very good as a starting quarterback. What I see with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is a quarterback with SOME of the same tools that Hill has but a guy who has better quarterback talent.

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Green Bay wasn't good last year, they won some close games..that's not happening this year. Their Defense is garbage, Rodgers is in decline.


I would love it if you are right.

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312player wrote:
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FF ducking the question.. would would your guy MVP Mitch bring back in a trade?


Nothing.


I'd say that Sean Payton would love to get him on the Saints for life after Drew and the fact that he lost Bridgewater.


I would disagree. He may want him on the Saints as a back up, but definitely not to take over for Brees when he retires.


For sure he'd go there as a back-up but I think Brees is pretty much on his last legs as a starter and I think that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky might thrive with Payton coaching him and calling the plays. I think that Payton has the best offensive mind in football with the possible exception being Andy Reid and the Bears have totally wasted Mitch's talent since he was drafted.



I agree with the Brees is washed up, they have Hill as their next starter.. they ain't interested in Mitch.


Are you sure that they think that Hill will be their next qb? I don't see it. Hill is awesome in the role that he plays. HE is a terrific athlete. But I don't think that he would be very good as a starting quarterback. What I see with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is a quarterback with SOME of the same tools that Hill has but a guy who has better quarterback talent.[/quote]

Too much talent in NOLA, Brees is underperforming..they want him gone like GB wanted Farve gone.

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I find it ridiculous that a guy like Hill who went undrafted is most likely better than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky who was taken in the 1st round.


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I find it ridiculous that a guy like Hill who went undrafted is most likely better than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky who was taken in the 1st round.


It's more ridiculous that Pace has drafted a number of low character guys with his first and second round picks.

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There is nothing to indicate any of those were low character. Kevin White is actually a really high character person who stuck around way past his expiration date because he was such a good teammate and so willing to put the work in.


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I find it ridiculous that a guy like Hill who went undrafted is most likely better than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky who was taken in the 1st round.


It's more ridiculous that Pace has drafted a number of low character guys with his first and second round picks.

Kevin White
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That is one solid trio of Pro Bowlers right there.


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I find it ridiculous that a guy like Hill who went undrafted is most likely better than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky who was taken in the 1st round.


It's more ridiculous that Pace has drafted a number of low character guys with his first and second round picks.

Kevin White
Mitch...he told us his leadership qualities were amazing. BULLSHIT
Adam Shaheen


You may be literally the only person who has called (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky a low character guy.

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Bernstein just read some deal that said it was going to be an open QB competition for the Bears this season between Foles and Mitch

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He's not a low character guy, but do you think he has the leadership qualities they described?
I don't see it at all.

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Bernstein just read some deal that said it was going to be an open QB competition for the Bears this season between Foles and Mitch


Yep! Easy W for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

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He's not a low character guy, but do you think he has the leadership qualities they described?
I don't see it at all.


He didn't lose the locker room and the entire team likes him. Obviously being good makes all of it better.

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I find it ridiculous that a guy like Hill who went undrafted is most likely better than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky who was taken in the 1st round.


It's more ridiculous that Pace has drafted a number of low character guys with his first and second round picks.

Kevin White
Mitch...he told us his leadership qualities were amazing. BULLSHIT
Adam Shaheen


You may be literally the only person who has called (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky a low character guy.


Yes. I have heard every possible negative thing said about his performance on the field, but nothing negative about his character.


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Bernstein just read some deal that said it was going to be an open QB competition for the Bears this season between Foles and Mitch

No way Mitch beats out a healthy and committed Foles.


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Bernstein just read some deal that said it was going to be an open QB competition for the Bears this season between Foles and Mitch

No way Mitch beats out a healthy and committed Foles.


No matter who "wins" an open competition, it will be the lesser of 2 evils. The winner will be whoever is not as bad as the other. Not very comforting.


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It comes down to who knows the playbook and can read defenses.

If it's a true "competition", it won't be close.

Mitch can focus on the XFL.


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It comes down to who knows the playbook and can read defenses.

If it's a true "competition", it won't be close.

Mitch can focus on the XFL.


More likely a career back-up in the NFL.


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I think since they are openly calling it a QB competition shows it is Foles job to lose.

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