Yeah. I really was fooled by McNown. I thought he'd be star in the league after watching him a lot in college. Never factored in what an asshole he was. He had talent.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

I agree....there have been very few QB's that have come in the draft where everyone felt they were "can't miss". The Mahomes, Mitch, Watson class.....there was not a consensus pick.

How man of these were actual consensus QB picks?
Andrew Luck - Yes
Alex Smith - Arguably, Yes
Eli Manning - Yes
Carson Palmer - Yes....late bloomer, but I'd call him a bust.
David Carr - I think there were some doubts on this one. Still a bust.
Michael Vick - some doubters. If anything Vick exceeeded expectations
Tim Couch - Yes, bust
Peyton Manning - HOFer
Ryan Leaf - Consensus pick and a huge bust

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I think you have it backwards with Carson. He was very very good to start with the Bengals. Then he injured his knee and became ineffective. Later on he revived his career with Arizona and became decent to slightly above average. So I wouldn't call him a bust in my opinion.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

true

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Man Carson Palmer was not a bust. He was fucking great before the knee injury against Pittsburgh

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Cut him. With prejudice.

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

yes, my memory was off on Carosn Palmer.

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Is there a place that has produced more over hyped, under productive QBs in this millenium than USC?

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Palmer was anything but a bust. He had success in Cinci and Arizona.

Ohio State runaway.

I'd take a QB from USC 10/10 times over someone from the hallowed football fields of UNC.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Lol. True.

You making a John David Booty call?

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Notre Dame

Still would try my luck with a USC prospect over UNC players. You only go to UNC to play football because better football schools didn't want you. Check out this illustrious list of notable UNC QBs:

Marquise Williams
Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky
TJ Yates
Darian Durant
Bryn Renner
Ronald Curry

Ryan Pace is a dumbass.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Ronald Curry was a pretty good receiver. Shame he couldn't stay healthy.

Darnold looks like a Lego man but I think he's going to be pretty good if the Jets can get some pieces around him. Getting mono last season didn't help him...

Seriously....good call on this one.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

He gone.

Pace misses on the most valuable Bears draft pick in recent memory.

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"You know 'that look' women get when they want sex? Me neither" ~Steve Martin

To those that follow the Bears closely, if the Bears make the playoffs with Foles leading the way, but don’t make the Super Bowl and Mitch then isn’t with the team after the season ends....does Pace keep his job? Not should, but does?

Pace isn't going anywhere.

They would have to have another disaster of a season for it to even be a consideration.

Yeah it sure appears so. Wouldn't be quite as bad if there wasn't another QB taken a few spots later that is on track to be an all time great QB.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Why not pick an option that only guarantees for injury? Outside of Alex smith, those injuries almost never happen to qbs. Plus if Foles is actually good he will walk since they redid his contract to free him if he actually plays. Which is pretty stupid stupid to save a few guaranteed million.

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Not agreeing or disagreeing just curious what others think.

In your opinion, what qualifies as disastrous? 6-10? Both Foles and Mitch wet the bed?

I guess what I’m really curious about, is there a set of circumstances where Pace is out, a new GM is hired and Nagy is retained?

Probably another 4-12 season with both QB's looking like garbage. Also throw in if no-shows started to become a factor.

JJ Stankevitz was on the Score earlier today and talked about this. He explained it pretty well I thought. Here is an article by him that goes into details.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears ... thing-2020

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

To make (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky the scapegoat for everything.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Yeah I don’t see how Pace survives the Bears missing the playoffs and then at the end of the year Mitch is gone.


As far as no-shows...I don’t think fans will be in attendance but for other reasons. But who the fuck knows.