You’re probably right most don’t know what they have to do for cops and don’t have to.

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I'm the same way. It's definitely because I don't know better and I prefer to fight for important stuff.

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They both were obviously looking for a fight with the officer, and that's what they got. Unlucky for them, they weren't clever enough to fuck with the cop without committing a crime and giving them a reason to make an arrest. Also the nice deep breaths she was taking to repeatedly scream "I cannot breathe" were a nice touch.

This is what happens when you tell someone constantly that they are not responsible for their actions, that they are being continually and constantly victimized generally by the system at large and specifically (HUNTED, even) by the agents of that system.

This is the problem with so much of this. Unless it was a pretextual stop, the cop said he saw a man and a woman in a physical altercation and she was crying. Hasn't it been beaten over our heads that most victims of domestic violence don't want to report the abuser? So she says everything is fine, the cop lets them go, and she is beaten later. Then they are blamed for not doing enough to stop it and they should have noticed the obvious signs of DV. I wouldn't want that job.

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You also obviously missed when they superimposed the state law making it a crime to give a fake name/not furnish identification to a police officer during detainment and/or when the officer has reason to believe the person is a witness to a crime. They both tried to fuck with the cop, and they lost.

That makes sense. I didn't consider that.

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I don't think the passenger has to show id unless they are involved in a crime or say being a witness. I could see why they would in this case. I'd really just want to know if she were okay.

That is exactly my point. Thanks. I think cops should be in place for ONE REASON and pretty much ONE REASON ONLY and that is to KEEP ORDER and to TAKE DOWN BAD GUYS. They shouldn't be this image of social workers, child protective services, truant officers and traffic cops enforcement. Let other lesser paid people do those jobs.

Me, I want the cop on the street to be a bad ass with a big club and a big gun and if you shoot at him, you will end up dying. If you resist a lawful arrest, you will be taken down HARD. Screw this notion of a big black guy or a big white guy for that matter attacking a hand-cuffing officer(s) taking a lethal weapon away from him and shooting at the cop. The fact that this cop(s) lost his job for this is awful. The asshole in that incident was the asshole sleeping in the drive through who blocked traffic into the place. It was that same asshole who was lawfully being arrested and fought the two cops arresting him and took away a weapon from him.

It was that asshole who was wrong in what he did. Lets say that that taser shot had hit the cop in the head/ Then what? Lets say the taser landed and the cop got stunned and he didn't get a round off. And then the asshole shot him? Was the cops still at fault?

Cops do not have to be liked. In fact I would prefer if they weren't liked by anyone. They should enforce the laws and that is it. Don't be referees for what is right or wrong. Just take the law and enforce it. If you want laws changed then change them. Right now. Cops, I think should righteously STAND DOWN. Turn in their badges and let these know-it-alls figure everything out for their cities. A lot of people will hire retired cops for a ton of good paying jobs where they can go home safely at night to their wives and children. They should do it. Fuck these cities.

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Completely agree but statistically she's not going to report it and if she was defiant in not giving her name which she had every right to not do what should they do? I wouldn't want the job either. In today's climate I'd have said sorry to bother you, hope everything is good, here is our number, you carry on, make the report and said I didn't want to escalate the situation.

She's totally faking

Good chart ... Los Bravos, 1966

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Let's lighten things up. Here's an old Howard Stern prank OJ/Peter Jennings call. Now lookie hara! It's gettin' quite tenses!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3cuf8YlL3H8

I agree 100%. I'm pretty conflicted after watching that whole thing. I hate the two people in the car. And the cops were about as professional as anyone would want them to be. But I kind of lean toward thinking that once they tell the cop there is no problem that should be the end of it. On the other hand, if she had simply given the cop her name and birthdate, they would have been on their way in two minutes.

But as Franky pointed out, if the cops just let them go and then he happens to kill her a half hour later, we're reading a completely different story. Then the cops are getting blasted for pulling the guy over after seeing him abusing her and just letting him go so he could kill her. And her furious family is on TV standing next to a lawyer.

The end result is going to be that the police don't make stops like that at all. I'm not sure if that will be an overall societal good or if it will turn out badly. I suspect we're going to find out.

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Jorr, that is pretty much my feelings after watching it. The only thing that sticks in my head and bothers me is would that cop have pulled over a white couple? I worry about pretexts for pulling people over. We saw that happen in that case down in Texas where the local girl ended up killing herself in jail. She was pulled over for a lane changing signal violation. She was very combative with the cop as well.

It goes back to the distrust between cops and blacks.

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A lot of it pertains to this. The relationship is adversarial and always has been.

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Yeah, I don't know. I think he probably would have pulled over whoever it was slap-boxing in the car, especially after the passenger tried to get out at the light.

It kind of hits close to home for me because when I was a teenager I had a similar situation where a girlfriend and I were having a heated argument and a cop stuck his nose in and I told him to mind his own business. He got way more aggressive with me than the cop in that video did and I wasn't acting anywhere near as hysterical as that driver.

I'm always extra deferential at a traffic stop right up until I see the guy actually writing the citation. At that point there's no reason to kiss the guy's ass anymore. But I don't get nasty. He's still got a gun. I just get real short like, "Are we done here?"

My mom was always super aggressive and nasty whenever she got pulled over. She had a really shitty attitude. I asked her how she thought being an asshole to the cop was going to help her. She didn't care. I guess she couldn't control her emotions. I'm sure she probably wasn't hassled as much by cops in her life as a young black dude is. But she also didn't look like she could be a threat. I wish I was in the shape that guy in the video is in. And if I was in a tense situation with him, I'd be wary.

Here's what I don't get though. If it is so dangerous to be a black guy in a situation with the cops, why would you do everything possible to ratchet the tension up as much as possible? That guy clearly wasn't afraid of the cops. He was trying to make a point.

I like watching those videos where some guy knows every statute and municipal code and purposely goes to a roadblock to fuck with the cops. He rolls his window down a tiny crack and fishes his license throught it in a plastic bag. But I'd rather just be on my way as quickly as possible instead of teaching the law to some idiot cop.

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I got pulled over my fair share when I was under 21. I haven’t had a ticket let alone even been pulled over in over 20 years. I am pretty sure it was because of my age and the cars I was driving. I can only imagine the situation for the average black American. From the statistics I have seen, it’s disproportionate.

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He catches a felony while she's only charged misdemeanor? Appeared equally reluctant to be taken into custody.

I tend to agree that age and car condition has a lot to do with it...I too got pulled over a shit ton in college , driving a POS
In later years not so much (except for 1 time i did something pretty egregious that some are aware of but i won't go into )

I have never had any antipathy towards the police. I grew up less than a half of a block away from a police station as a child and thus tended to have more interactions with them as a result. Like anyone else there are good ones and there are bad ones.
I always have tried to be mindful that they have a tough and very demanding job. Often times they have to make split second decisions and there will be times that it will not be the correct one.

As long as they are held accountable when they screw up then there shouldn't be a problem.

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Of course. And even in a case like Brooks being shot in the back which was completely unnecessary, I think the public would be willing to give the police the benefit of the doubt in situations like that where shit happened fast and the guy grabbed a taser if the cops weren't always doing shit like they did with Tony Timpa and George Floyd and shit like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfJ1yIQsoVw

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and that c*nt of a cop has been promoted since and wasn't disciplined.

People wonder why I celebrate attacks on cops, this is exhibit #1,564,587 why

That Boogaloo fella was doing the lord's work a few weeks ago in California

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well said

They profiled him, but for a variety of reasons, I'm not sure if looking for a confrontation is best. I've been conditioned to believe that. I've seen others get combative immediately and it still worked out too.

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The DA press conference in Fulton Georgia is going on now. Watched a couple minutes, sounds like there are going to be criminal charges against the officer who shot Brooks. Good. That cop deserves to fry. DA cited to precedent that says you can only shoot a feeling suspect if you believe there is an imminent threat of death or great bodily harm. Tasers don't cause either of those, and definitely not from a guy 18 feet away running the opposite direction.


Hope Ogie gets to flip the switch on the chair for this scumbag.

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They just threw the book at the Atlanta cop. I can't believe that. It looks beyond obsessive to me. They even got the other cop to "flip"

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So he kicked the dead body and stood on it. That'll probably get him a few months in prison. I doubt the murder charge could possibly stick.

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If people start thinking they can get away with wrestling weapons out of police officers hands then firing at them...well...that's not a precedent I think people are fully contemplating the ramifications of setting.

"Felony" murder seems like a misuse of that particular crime. I thought that was given to related people who didn't pull the actual trigger but were accomplices to a crime where a death/murder occurred.

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I don't know how you can possibly fathom, much less argue with a straight face, that taking swings at officers while resisting, taking a weapon from the officers, then assaulting them with it, then firing that weapon at them, isn't reasonably considered a threat of great bodily harm.