Anyone who would give you heat for that is a clown and a jackass. It's your experience and you're simply distinguishing your experience from others.

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I've seen that sign a few times. Once I was in a store that sold reproductions of the old Jim Crow signs and bought a couple out of amusement. Never thought twice about it until I realized that i'd left up a "Colored Only " sign in my first floor powder room where a repairman had been working.

I apologized profusely, but to the guy's credit he said he hadn't noticed it. Which wasn't possible.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

I get what you are trying to say here, but I certainly don't find this even close to the most reprehensible thing surrounding who uses the word and for what purpose.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I don't love to tell this story but I'll say it. I grew up in a rural, small town of all white people.

So, I'd say 1st-3rd grade or so I do recall the word coming up often in the eeney-meeny-miney-mo context.

I think I understood at that age that it was wrong but certainly not how wrong it was and there was nobody there that was taking offense to it.

I don't recall personally using the word but it is quite likely that I did at some point during the choosing game. I like to think if we had any black kids in school we would have realized but, knowing some of those kids as adults now, I don't think it would have mattered.

Obviously, as we got older and learned some things about history, we realized. But, I can't say that didn't happen at my school in the mid-late 1970s. It did.

For some kids it was just a function of not being exposed to how awful the history of it was. There were not many occasions where the conversation would need to be had with my parents when you live in a very non-diverse community so it just never came up and then you learn things from 7-year-olds when you are at school.

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I think that I've mentioned it here before, but my mom and I were part in a federal court ordered desegregation of a south suburban school district. I never had a single issue with any student. Although one of the teachers I still remember fondly was there, one teacher and a principal were among the most hateful people I ever met.

The principal was the first person I remember pointedly and angrily calling people nigg*rs. I still remember being stung.

I was 5.

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That is horrible, RR.

I feel bad even telling that story about my school. But, it happened. It serves no purpose to pretend it didn't.

And, in the bigger picture, I think it's important to understand why some of these things do happen. When I was a young kid that felt more like a swear word. There was no context to it. I doubt there was a single kid in my school that knew anyone personally that would have been personally stung by that word. It was kind of like saying shit or fuck and kids would giggle.

If anything, I think kids currently have a much more nuanced view of society and race relations regardless of where you grow up - probably due to TV and social media. Overall, that would be a positive, if true.

But, I suppose it could be a negative given the divisiveness of the current social culture. It's hard to know which way that scale is tipping but I'd like to think it is going in the positive direction.

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You know me like that.

I'm glad that you told your story, it's why in part I told mine.

I rarely use the word, but frankly, some of the kids protesting and some of the posters here willing to talk honestly about their experiences have given me a sense of hope I'd almost completely lost

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

eeney-meeny-miney-mo? I see you as a 1-2-3 Not It! guy.

I had no idea the comtext of the uncle ben name. I had to google the ennie meanie minnie moe thing. Had no idea. It was always catch a Tiger by the toe for me, and we generally used " bubblegum bubblegum in a dish how many pieces do you wish" rhyme.

Im kind of floored at both.

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You'll be floored one you google Brazil nuts too.

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Yeah, the way my grandfather called them the other name just so matter-of-factly always made me feel icky.

I don't get it. We live in a multinational country where we all know that certain offensive things can't be said by others outside of that group. If Shakes uses a known Jewish slur towards his brother, we all know that we can't say the same thing. Same is true for Crest if he uses an Irish slur towards his brother. Even if they're using said slur as a term of endearment.

That's why it's odd when white guys like JORR or WFR act as if they don't understand why the same is true for the n-word.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Nobody cares about poor dolphin.

Nas thinks slurring him is ok.

SAD!

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While we never used the non tiger version, I was aware of the other. Can’t put a finger on how I knew but I did, maybe it was something I always knew, maybe it was something I learned latter in life and it just feels like forever. Hard to say.The bubble gum I don’t know and I don’t think I’ll google it or Brazil nuts. I Don’t recall much use of the word but do recall parts of jokes that were told and thought nothing of. I don’t think ashamed is the right word for how I feel about that now.. maybe sad that We didn’t know better, that it was something that wasn’t ever mentioned or discussed in my family until I was much older. I don’t know... It’s something I think about from time to time.

As far as aunt jemima.. I recall the pre redesigned logo and finding more of the history... yeah, probably about damn time to strike that. We were a log cabin family growing up (and now a real syrup family) and when on vacation I’m struck by how awful the corn syrups are.

I’m allowed to slur him 1/8 of the time. I actually do hate that word. Maybe not as much as dolphin but it did make me embarrassed of a part of my ancestry for a short time of my life.

Same. Although, I don't think it was ever discussed in my family.

My family was very religious. I was thinking more about this as I was driving home. As I mentioned before, to me, at that time, it was a swear word. It didn't mean anything to me. I wasn't allowed to use swear words and so I wouldn't. No words like that were used around my house so I'm pretty lucky. Other kids I went to school with clearly were not as lucky as I was.

I was trying to think of when that changed and I understood more about it. And I think it was around the time Roots was broadcast. I didn't watch it. I think I was probably still too young but it was a change in the sense that here is something that people are talking about and changed the conversation or at least made it more widely-spread to areas like where I was growing up and talking about the issues in the school.

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I remember singing songs about Native Americans (1 little, 2 little, 3 little...) and some other offensive stuff in the 80's. It's kinda crazy looking back at things that used to be okay. Thanks for sharing!

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

I never knew the dolphin slurs before posting here. Even though a nice lady taught me how to speak a little of his language.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

What's your endgame? Separatism? If you were really offended by the word it wouldn't matter who said it.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I only knew the catch a tiger version.

As a kid aunt Jemima was just the source of hyper sweet shit to put on terrible pancakes (I'm a boysenberry kinda guy myself) and we never had uncle Ben as my mother was fond of steaming some weird ass Chinese rice she bought at a bulk store (we had this 20 pound sack of rice that lasted us 20 years) but something seemed off about the bottle.

My grandfather was the most racist man I knew. He had all kinds of colorful names for pretty much any race other than his own which was 6th generation French. If you think of Archie bunker that's pretty much my grandpa.

I remember we had a black family move in across the street when I was about 6. The previous family was headed by a blue angles pilot and I never saw him much. My grandpa was a bit of a drop in type. He'd just show up. Well one day we were out as a family and turned onto our street and there was grandpas car but no grandpa. A few minutes later he walked in. Apparently he had been waiting and the Roberts family had seen him sitting there on our porch awaiting us and invited him over for some sweet tea and words. They got along well enough. I will never forget what my grandfather said about them. "Boy they sure are nice for coloreds.". Id never heard that word. My mother was so mad she screamed at him dad! You will not speak like that around my son! I had no idea what they were yelling about. I played with their son every day it seemed on the ball field. See back then kids played a game called baseball on local fields and kids of all ages just kind of showed up and played this game together.

This family invited my racist grandpa over for some cold sweet tea on a hot day and he still called them coloreds. Probably that was the nicest thing he could think of.

Qt some point prior to that I remember asking my mother, at the age of about 4 or 5, what a n***** was. She yelled at me where did you hear that and I said grandpa. She said we don't ever talk like that and when we got home called him and let him have it for saying that to me as a 4 or 5 year old.

I say these things but I loved him very much. He really did have a good heart. I don’t like telling these stories because it makes him sound like an ass but he loved me and took care of me and gave me whatever he could that I needed.

My mom tried to keep me from hearing these words and thoughts. She's a good woman too. I'm not sure where she got that. Her parents and my fathers parents weren't very.... inclusive.

I feel bad that Dave Roberts just tried to give an old man sitting on a porch in the heat something cold to drink and thats what grandpa thought of them. I can't change it.

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I've been thinking about this recently. Is my avatar offensive? When I signed up for this board it was just an image I pulled of thesmokinggun mug shots page because I thought it was amusing that someone gave the cops the double bird. I don't know anymore. Maybe I should change it.

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N word should be abolished. That is the way modern cancellation works. No one says it. Now one could say I am allowed to call my brother a pollack. But really why? There isn’t a reason if it hurt us that badly.

What is the positive side of a black man calling another N word? And don’t give me any making it less awful or rap bullshit.

A girl doesn’t call another girl a Caller Bob unless she’s ready to back that shit up.

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It's completely socially unacceptable to call anyone that. And it should be. That isn't what we're talking about, is it? We're talking about a white teacher being terrified to utter it in an academic setting. We're talking about a kid who bought a record not being "allowed" to sing along with his favorite artist. And I doubt we want to start outlawing words.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Yes.

Change it to Lionel Hutz.

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He resembles a fish?

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My family was not religious but was “proper” in that there were words to be used and words not to be. This definitely fit the not to use Category although I’m not sure it was explicitly said as much until maybe I was 11 or 12ish and my uncle recounted a story with no filter and no reluctance to use slurs. Which saddened me at the time as he was always the “loving” member of the family. My mom tried to soften the blow but it was very half hearted product of your time and surroundings that I’m not sure how much she believed.

She would of slapped my friends and me upside the head if she heard the jokes. Actually.. probably the case with 99% of the stupid jokes we told regardless of topic.

They should just go with a photo of Harriet Tubman and kick some proceeds back to her family.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Reparations

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