I do not remember that.

I don't go around calling people krauts or Nazis.

How nice of you to decide what's exempt from consideration. Your justification for your use of the words, the context in which you use them or the frequency does NOT matter. I simply said that people use slurs unique to the heritage "occasionally" to "degrade one another, as a term of endearment or even as a joke" and nothing you've posted changes that. Did we decide as a society that Aunt and Uncle were awful or did 1 historically racist brand FINALLY get rebranded? Were you also bothered by the removal of the slave block from Virginia? If so, why? You can say N*gger or N*gga as much as you want. It is absolutely your choice to use whatever words that you want. Do you genuinely believe that your use of the n-word being frowned upon is a sign of separatism? REALLY? I'll ask you the same question that I asked JORR, is there any other group of people that you're bothered by the use of their unique slurs being frowned upon? You've used the German slurs above, why can't I say them too? Respect. Is being respectful too great of a burden?

Were not having a discussion about our personal experiences. What is unique to me or you isn't representative of Black America or White America. You can't make statements of fact about Black America based solely on your experience. That's insane. There is documented facts that go against the experience of a man who has spent nearly all of his life in a western suburb of Chicago.

You're comparing another country looking for American tourist dollars to support their economy to some black industry in America? What black industry is there in America? You own them all. There is no greater way to "dive in" than having ownership of all industries dominated by blacks.

You're continuing to shift the debate to areas we weren't discussing. I want a unicorn, but unfortunately they don't exist. You're also arguing from a position of ignorance that speaks to your basic knowledge of these things. ALL communities suffer when the dollars spent in those communities are taken to other communities. Communities thrive when those dollars are recycled. When the overwhelming majority of businesses in a community is owned by someone who doesn't live there then that community will suffer. Recycling dollars is what matters. Recycling dollars increase property values and helps communities to grow and thrive.

Sigh! In what way(s) haven't blacks assimilated to this country? We've fought and shed blood in every American war (even fighting the Germans) even though we KNEW we were still going to be slaves or 3rd class citizens. We then gave our lives begging for the opportunity to be treated as equally as you. Only to have the goal posts moved nearly every time. There is no group of people more American or who actually want America to live up to her ideals more than blacks. Now you're saying that we should forget our "hardships"? That we don't fully trust White America? What planet are you on? How often do you leave the western suburbs? We don't call a realtor when a couple of white families buy homes on our block. Your presence doesn't scare us. A mirror may be needed, my friend.

Ummm....

We know I've used the term Nazi a lot but not related to German ethnicity.

I don't want to say the n word. What I want is 100% agreement in America that use of the term, BY ANYONE, encourages segregation and racism. "Stop being racist to us while we use racist terms" will get you nowhere. If Germans are calling each other krauts, I also frown upon that. I've never heard it, so I must have my head in sand, but I will take your word for it.

I've looked in the mirror plenty and that is why I feel very comfortable having this conversation with you, in a very public forum. I know exactly where I stand. I'm not unsure about anything. I know my own faults, pertaining to this discussion any all others.
How are blacks in the south side able to comment on White America then? Many of those individuals don't often leave the metro area, let alone travel the United States. We've stagnated when it comes to progressing with many racial and social issues. A lot of that is due to assumptions and stereotyping on both sides. But all we have to go on are our experiences.

I don't own shit. I hate this sort of attitude. I am not associated with a group of people due to a color of skin. I don't think you will ever know how frustrating it is for black people to sort people into teams based on the color of skin while demanding that people not be treated differently due to the color of their skin. We're Facebook friends. I think you've seen that I like to wander around all of Chicagoland, city included, for various food and entertainment purposes. I go where I want to go. And besides Nana and a few other places around the near South Side and Bridgeport, there really isn't much of a reason for me to go to those neighborhoods very often. They aren't meant for me.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

You're not challenging my views. You're insinuating that if I don't agree with you I'm a racist.



What kind of crap is that? I'm not desirous to go around shouting that. I'm certain that WfR isn't either. And neither of us does go around shouting that.

That being the case, if this word is so offensive to you, why do you insist on it being used at all?

And for the record, I read the back and forth between you and IMU and I disagree with him too. Not all slurs are equal. It's certainly worse to call you the word in question than it is to call good dolphin the popular derogatory term for a Polish person.

I would say not being a backward brat would be a great start.

We live in a country where pretty much everyone's ancestors arrived here on a plane or boat from somewhere else in the world. You don't completely lose your heritage because you decided to participate in this great experiment we call America.

I'm baffled that I'm having this conversation with you. You don't get to tell someone else that they should ALWAYS be offended by a racial or ethnic slur regardless of who says it. Every group of people in this country have slurs that are unique to their group. MANY people in those groups occasionally use those slurs to degrade one another, as a term of endearment or even as a joke. They're still rightfully offended when someone outside their group uses the word or words. You and WFR appear to be so desirous to shout "N*GGER!" that you act as if you don't understand this.

Are you asking your Jewish friends why you can't use their slurs? What about your Russian friends? Hispanic friends? Friends in any other racial or ethnic group? Of course not! It's not hard to understand why they're not okay for you or I to say.

I don't want to say the n word. What I want is 100% agreement in America that use of the term, BY ANYONE, encourages segregation and racism. "Stop being racist to us while we use racist terms" will get you nowhere. If Germans are calling each other krauts, I also frown upon that. I've never heard it, so I must have my head in sand, but I will take your word for it.

I've looked in the mirror plenty and that is why I feel very comfortable having this conversation with you, in a very public forum. I know exactly where I stand. I'm not unsure about anything. I know my own faults, pertaining to this discussion any all others.
How are blacks in the south side able to comment on White America then? Many of those individuals don't often leave the metro area, let alone travel the United States. We've stagnated when it comes to progressing with many racial and social issues. A lot of that is due to assumptions and stereotyping on both sides. But all we have to go on are our experiences.

I don't own shit. I hate this sort of attitude. I am not associated with a group of people due to a color of skin. I don't think you will ever know how frustrating it is for black people to sort people into teams based on the color of skin while demanding that people not be treated differently due to the color of their skin. We're Facebook friends. I think you've seen that I like to wander around all of Chicagoland, city included, for various food and entertainment purposes. I go where I want to go. And besides Nana and a few other places around the near South Side and Bridgeport, there really isn't much of a reason for me to go to those neighborhoods very often. They aren't meant for me. I'll go ahead and disregard the suggestion that I'd consider moving if some more black families moved in to my complex.

When I was in grade school the "yo mama" jokes were big. One that I came to mind while reading this thread was to ask somebody: "Aunt Jemima on a pancake box?", which was verbalized to sound like "ain't yo mama on a pancake box?". It wasn't very funny even then, but it did stick in my head.

The two black eyes you'd get for either seems to be equal

I don't want to say the n word. What I want is 100% agreement in America that use of the term, BY ANYONE, encourages segregation and racism. "Stop being racist to us while we use racist terms" will get you nowhere. If Germans are calling each other krauts, I also frown upon that. I've never heard it, so I must have my head in sand, but I will take your word for it.

2) I think everyone should be grown up enough that there shouldn't be hysteria over a white teacher actually saying the word during a discussion of Mark Twain or Letter From A Birmingham Jail rather than being forced into using the childlike construction "the n word" or facing a reprimand or possibly losing her job.

Japanese people embrace white America diving into their culture...kimonos and all.

Are you stoned or pissed off, or both, when you create these postings?

Are you reading what you are posting? You are in one breath you are complaining about blacks having an issue with EVERYONE saying the n-word and then in the next you're trying to define the use of the word 100% of the time. Again, you're not asking why you can't use other slurs. You seem to understand why outside of the n-word.

You started this dialogue with this statement:

"African Americans have always (rightfully) cried out for equality while at the same time doing everything possible to isolate and claim a unique culture for themselves that no one else should have access to. There has always been a desire for separatism on both sides"

It wasn't based on any historical facts. It was based entirely on personal experiences in high school, things posted on social media and your views of a subculture of Black America.

You say that you aren't associated with a group of people "due to color of skin", but you are preaching about things that blacks should do better. You can't have it both ways.

You are my guy, but you are off on most of this. Just a basic knowledge of history would tell you this.

Canadians too.

And I suppose I should have added "In America". I'm not sure how "the p word" plays over in Europe. Maybe it's way more offensive coming from a German in Frankfurt than it is in Chicago where half of us are married to "p-words".

I don't pretend that I don't see people differently, but I know I don't want it to be like that anymore. I'm part of the problem. I think you're also part of the problem. I seem to have failed to convey why I think that is the case though. Maybe I'm not eloquent enough. But I'm going to hold the opinion regardless as it is based on my experiences. Again, I can be told whatever, but if what I see and what I experience is what I've seen and what I've experienced, I have every right to base my beliefs off of that. And my beliefs are that I see a lot of people claiming that they want to be one big happy family, but when it all comes down to it, we still retreat back to the people and places we are most comfortable.

Let me know when you aren't paying attention to which businesses are owned by which color and at the time it is fair to hold me accountable to standards I probably don't yet meet.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

I don't really have much say in the matter but my preference would be that no one use the n-word casually.

Maybe I could have just said this and be done with it.

You're not alone on this. I considered this a while ago as well. "BLM" was dormant for nearly 4 years and right when the president was having trouble, they were activated.

what? blm was reactivated when a cop was caught CLEAR AS FUCKING GLASS murdering a black man on video for no reason. just like the virus bullshit, it didn't start political but after it became clear it could be used as a political weapon everyone forgot what was actually going on.