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Just came home and house went from 78 when I left at 3 to 87 now. Went outside and the tube that is usually cool running from the AC is hot.

Sounds bad. When you say hot... how hot? The big tube is hot?


Yeah the one with the insulation on it that is usually cold. Not scalding hot but warm. Usually it is cold when I touch it. I think I'm fucked. This AC looks like it has been here for 20 plus years. I clean the outside every year but figure it is a matter of time.

A retired guy my dad is friends with that was from my old neighborhood is stopping by tomorrow to look at it.

You're undercharged. System is low on refrigerant. You can charge it but id plan on replacement. Chances are at that age it is r22. That shit is no longer manufactured. Get it replaced


When you are on a condenser replacement job what happens with the r22. Don't you have to suck the system dry and store it in a tank? What happens to those tanks? Do they make you turn it in for disposal or do you get to keep it for side jobs?

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Just came home and house went from 78 when I left at 3 to 87 now. Went outside and the tube that is usually cool running from the AC is hot.

Sounds bad. When you say hot... how hot? The big tube is hot?


Yeah the one with the insulation on it that is usually cold. Not scalding hot but warm. Usually it is cold when I touch it. I think I'm fucked. This AC looks like it has been here for 20 plus years. I clean the outside every year but figure it is a matter of time.

A retired guy my dad is friends with that was from my old neighborhood is stopping by tomorrow to look at it.

You're undercharged. System is low on refrigerant. You can charge it but id plan on replacement. Chances are at that age it is r22. That shit is no longer manufactured. Get it replaced


When you are on a condenser replacement job what happens with the r22. Don't you have to suck the system dry and store it in a tank? What happens to those tanks? Do they make you turn it in for disposal or do you get to keep it for side jobs?

You pump it with a recovery machine into a recovery tank.
That tank when full gets processed or recycled. That recycled refrigerant can then be sold but not as profitable as Virgin refrigerants.

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you cannot use recovered refrigerant in a system not owned by the same owner as the recovered system.
So if you have two systems and one gets replaced technically one could be the supply of refrigerant for the other. That never really happens tbo.

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you cannot use recovered refrigerant in a system not owned by the same owner as the recovered system.
So if you have two systems and one gets replaced technically one could be the supply of refrigerant for the other. That never really happens tbo.


i got my 608/609 licenses too!

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you cannot use recovered refrigerant in a system not owned by the same owner as the recovered system.
So if you have two systems and one gets replaced technically one could be the supply of refrigerant for the other. That never really happens tbo.


i got my 608/609 licenses too!

I can pay union scale for a tech in the northwest burbs and Chicago.

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Can you move to northern Wisconsin?

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Yes.

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What should I expect the replacement cost to be?

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What should I expect the replacement cost to be?

Where do u live? About not specifically.

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What should I expect the replacement cost to be?

Mine was $3500 last year

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How much should a recharge of an old system reasonably cost?

I'm pretty sure that I'm in the same boat.

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What should I expect the replacement cost to be?

Where do u live? About not specifically.


Oak Lawn 1400 square ft house

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How much should a recharge of an old system reasonably cost?

I'm pretty sure that I'm in the same boat.

Could be around 400-500. Less than that if they don't try to find the leak.

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What should I expect the replacement cost to be?

Where do u live? About not specifically.


Oak Lawn 1400 square ft house

low mid 4k id say. Look you're gonna be tempted to buy a four seasons provides system because its cheap.
Don't do it.
You'll regret it.

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Broken capacitor was the problem. Fixed and now slowly cooling down here.

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Broken capacitor was the problem. Fixed and now slowly cooling down here.

I hate it when the Flex Capacitor goes.

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Broken capacitor was the problem. Fixed and now slowly cooling down here.

I hate it when the Flex Capacitor goes.


...or the Flux Capacitor

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Broken capacitor was the problem. Fixed and now slowly cooling down here.

I hate it when the Flex Capacitor goes.


...or the Flux Capacitor

:oops:

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Hawg Ass wrote:
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Broken capacitor was the problem. Fixed and now slowly cooling down here.

I hate it when the Flex Capacitor goes.


...or the Flux Capacitor

:oops:


Nerds!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:


But, since I got it, I'm in the same boat too. :oops:

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Broken capacitor was the problem. Fixed and now slowly cooling down here.

So then the compressor wasn't running. That explains the warm pipe. Sorry, I was assuming the system was running when I suggested it was low on refrigerant.

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Know anybody in the Peoria area? I'm looking to replace my 1960's era propane furnace and 1990's central air. Also any idea on ballpark what I should spend? 111 year old farmhouse.


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Know anybody in the Peoria area? I'm looking to replace my 1960's era propane furnace and 1990's central air. Also any idea on ballpark what I should spend? 111 year old farmhouse.

I don't know anyone in that area.
You're probably looking around a 6500 to 7500 project.
But yeah dude replafe that furnace. Good lord! 50 years old? You trying to die young?

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Know anybody in the Peoria area? I'm looking to replace my 1960's era propane furnace and 1990's central air. Also any idea on ballpark what I should spend? 111 year old farmhouse.

I don't know anyone in that area.
You're probably looking around a 6500 to 7500 project.
But yeah dude replafe that furnace. Good lord! 50 years old? You trying to die young?

It's going to happen before the heating season. Thanks for the insight. My place has been in the family since the 1860's, not the original house on the property. Neat story, in the 80's my dad converted the unheated, cooled summer kitchen into a family room. Had all the trim and cabinets made by the amish, put the old coal/wood furnace out there for supplemental heat. When you would burn coal you could literally open all the windows in the middle of January and be comfortable.


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On 3 occasions this summer my thermostat is calling for the A/C but the condenser wouldn't fire. I threw the breaker in the panel for the condenser off and then back on and on all 3 occasions it immediately fired. It did it this morning and it seems to be on days when its humid as shit that this occurs. I don't think I am low on refrigerant as it works fine for weeks at a time. Is it possible that the contactors in the condenser are sticking a bit? If so what the hell do you spray on them to lube them up?

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On 3 occasions this summer my thermostat is calling for the A/C but the condenser wouldn't fire. I threw the breaker in the panel for the condenser off and then back on and on all 3 occasions it immediately fired. It did it this morning and it seems to be on days when its humid as shit that this occurs. I don't think I am low on refrigerant as it works fine for weeks at a time. Is it possible that the contactors in the condenser are sticking a bit? If so what the hell do you spray on them to lube them up?


wash out your condensor coils

if you want any electrical contacts cleaned, use this https://www.parts-express.com/caig-d5s- ... n--349-230

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can I just hose that thing off or does it need the acid foam stuff?

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can I just hose that thing off or does it need the acid foam stuff?


garden hose works fine. it should be done every year, it makes a big difference. you shouldn't need to worry too much about getting the fan motor wet or anything... it should all be water resistant.

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I had the air compressor out to do some framing on my deck so I threw the air gun on it and now the air leaving it feels a hell of alot less hot and the AC is keeping up better in the house. On a hot day in the high 80's I set it at 73 and it sits at 76 all damn day. Today its damn near 90 and sitting at 72.

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