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WOW!!! He'll be underpaid in 3 or 4 years. Hopefully he has a lot of full guarantees.

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I know you don't pay rbs, but it still feels like Derrick Henry should have gotten more


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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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One of the most under the radar coaches in the game IMO. Its too bad he's saddled with Cousins for the time being.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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It took me years to win that battle with RFDC and I'm not even sure it's still won with his boy Mike McCarthy finding work again

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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It took me years to win that battle with RFDC and I'm not even sure it's still won with his boy Mike McCarthy finding work again

:lol: McCarthy is not my boy. I am just not that high on Zimmer. Zimmer is Marvin Lewis to me. Going to be somewhere a long time it seems and have nothing to show for it. McCarthy at least has a superbowl for his resume.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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It took me years to win that battle with RFDC and I'm not even sure it's still won with his boy Mike McCarthy finding work again

:lol: McCarthy is not my boy. I am just not that high on Zimmer. Zimmer is Marvin Lewis to me. Going to be somewhere a long time it seems and have nothing to show for it. McCarthy at least has a superbowl for his resume.

.599 and .518 winning percentage is a huge difference, and Zimmer has won a playoff game. By almost any criteria you can find Zimmer's coaching results are far better than Lewis. They aren't even in the same conversation.

Zimmer would have about 3-4 titles if he had Rodgers for a decade. He made it to the NFCCG with Case Keenum for fucks sake

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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Yeah I was gonna say hasn't Zimmer already won more playoff games than Lewis?

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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Zimmer would have about 3-4 titles if he had Rodgers for a decade.


Stop. That is a crazy statement.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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Zimmer would have about 3-4 titles if he had Rodgers for a decade.


Stop. That is a crazy statement.

It's not a crazy statement at all. Rodgers was close in 2014 and 2016 with one of the worst coaches in the NFL at the helm. Give him a very good coach instead of a glorified water boy and he would have been able to do a lot more. This is a pretty commonly held viewpoint nationally, it's not "crazy" or being a homer to point it out.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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It took me years to win that battle with RFDC and I'm not even sure it's still won with his boy Mike McCarthy finding work again

:lol: McCarthy is not my boy. I am just not that high on Zimmer. Zimmer is Marvin Lewis to me. Going to be somewhere a long time it seems and have nothing to show for it. McCarthy at least has a superbowl for his resume.

.599 and .518 winning percentage is a huge difference, and Zimmer has won a playoff game. By almost any criteria you can find Zimmer's coaching results are far better than Lewis. They aren't even in the same conversation.

Zimmer would have about 3-4 titles if he had Rodgers for a decade. He made it to the NFCCG with Case Keenum for fucks sake

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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For the record if Brees had Zimmer instead of Payton he very likely has multiple trophies by now too. And I think Payton is actually at least a league average coach unlike McCarthy

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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It took me years to win that battle with RFDC and I'm not even sure it's still won with his boy Mike McCarthy finding work again

:lol: McCarthy is not my boy. I am just not that high on Zimmer. Zimmer is Marvin Lewis to me. Going to be somewhere a long time it seems and have nothing to show for it. McCarthy at least has a superbowl for his resume.

.599 and .518 winning percentage is a huge difference, and Zimmer has won a playoff game. By almost any criteria you can find Zimmer's coaching results are far better than Lewis. They aren't even in the same conversation.

Zimmer would have about 3-4 titles if he had Rodgers for a decade. He made it to the NFCCG with Case Keenum for fucks sake

:lol: :lol: Good to see FF fixed his weed supply issues.

I'll mark you down as having the opinion of Case Keenum and Kirk Cousins being as good as prime Aaron Rodgers. Thanks for jumping in!

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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:lol: Come on man, no one is saying Cousins or Case were as good as Rodgers in their prime.

There is no way you can say that they would have won 3 or 4 titles, it is really hard to win titles.

You are high on Zimmer and he very well maybe a better coach than McCarthy, but to say it would be a lock for them to 3 or 4 titles with Rodgers is just silly. McCarthy and Zimmer are not that far away from each other to equal 3 or 4 titles.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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It took me years to win that battle with RFDC and I'm not even sure it's still won with his boy Mike McCarthy finding work again

:lol: McCarthy is not my boy. I am just not that high on Zimmer. Zimmer is Marvin Lewis to me. Going to be somewhere a long time it seems and have nothing to show for it. McCarthy at least has a superbowl for his resume.

.599 and .518 winning percentage is a huge difference, and Zimmer has won a playoff game. By almost any criteria you can find Zimmer's coaching results are far better than Lewis. They aren't even in the same conversation.

Zimmer would have about 3-4 titles if he had Rodgers for a decade. He made it to the NFCCG with Case Keenum for fucks sake

:lol: :lol: Good to see FF fixed his weed supply issues.

I'll mark you down as having the opinion of Case Keenum and Kirk Cousins being as good as prime Aaron Rodgers. Thanks for jumping in!


I think you don't understand how hard it is to win that amount of titles in today's NFL. Zimmer is good, but he's no Beliciek.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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:lol: Come on man, no one is saying Cousins or Case were as good as Rodgers in their prime.

There is no way you can say that they would have won 3 or 4 titles, it is really hard to win titles.

You are high on Zimmer and he very well maybe a better coach than McCarthy, but to say it would be a lock for them to 3 or 4 titles with Rodgers is just silly. McCarthy and Zimmer are not that far away from each other to equal 3 or 4 titles.

I never said it was a lock, I simply said it. I find your position on this much more crazy than mine. But then again 3 years ago you also thought John Fox was a better coach than Zimmer so maybe I need to adjust my expectations for my audience :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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I think you don't understand how hard it is to win that amount of titles in today's NFL.

I do understand it. You're thinking of Frank.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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I never said it was easy to win or make it to a Super Bowl.

I said it becomes that much easier when you have two of the top 5-10 QBs to ever have played the game suit up for you over the course of twenty years. At least Favre made it back to the SB the year after winning it. The closest Rodgers has come since is getting blown out in two conference title games.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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:lol: Come on man, no one is saying Cousins or Case were as good as Rodgers in their prime.

There is no way you can say that they would have won 3 or 4 titles, it is really hard to win titles.

You are high on Zimmer and he very well maybe a better coach than McCarthy, but to say it would be a lock for them to 3 or 4 titles with Rodgers is just silly. McCarthy and Zimmer are not that far away from each other to equal 3 or 4 titles.

I never said it was a lock, I simply said it. I find your position on this much more crazy than mine. But then again 3 years ago you also thought John Fox was a better coach than Zimmer so maybe I need to adjust my expectations for my audience :lol:

You never said it was a lock, you simply said it? I am going to have to read that a couple more times. They would have won 3 or 4 titles is pretty strong statement, it is not like you said they may have won 1.

Clearly looking at Fox after his time in Chicago things have changed, but when he was brought in his resume was pretty good, so it is not like I was going way out on a limb thinking Fox was a better coach than Zimmer.

Was looking up Zimmers record and this link popped up. Guess at least I am not the only one to think he is Lewis.

https://thevikingage.com/2020/06/26/mik ... vin-lewis/

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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I never said it was easy to win or make it to a Super Bowl.

I said it becomes that much easier when you have two of the top 5-10 QBs to ever have played the game suit up for you over the course of twenty years. At least Favre made it back to the SB the year after winning it. The closest Rodgers has come since is getting blown out in two conference title games.

You think they got blown in 2014?

Hard talking about this stuff with non-football fans smh

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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No need to read it again rfdc. I agree it was as strong statement, which is why it really didn’t need to be made stronger with the word lock adlibbed in.

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I never said it was easy to win or make it to a Super Bowl.

I said it becomes that much easier when you have two of the top 5-10 QBs to ever have played the game suit up for you over the course of twenty years. At least Favre made it back to the SB the year after winning it. The closest Rodgers has come since is getting blown out in two conference title games.


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Jamal Adams and 2022 4th to seahawk for 21 1st 21 3rd, 22 1st and some safety

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My bet with FF looks better by the day.



I think this one’s over Franky. Short of nuclear war occurring I don’t see you winning this :lol:

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Bears had a bunch of false positives and the media went crazy with the sky is falling takes. All these football journalists couldn't WAIT to say its time to cancel football season. They wont be getting their way.

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Wait, Zona got Hopkins for a washed up running back and a 2nd rounder? That can't be correct.

:lol: it’s correct

No, it's not.


Virtually correct. They also exchanged fourth rounders. It's a fourth, second and DJ for Hopkins and a fourth.


I just looked into this trade again after reading that David Johnson was just signed as a free agent somewhere. I assume it's the same Johnson we all know.

It's not like Hopkins has propelled Arizona to heights we've never see before, but in terms of value for value is this one of the worst trades ever? Seems like the board and the whole universe hated the deal and the data since then just confirms it. What a horrible deal. I've read the Texans traded the second rounder they got in the deal and converted the fourth rounder into other picks. And we know how Johnson turned out. So they basically traded a prime Hopkins for a couple mid rounders. He was worth so much more. I still can't believe this trade even took place.

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