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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:19 pm 
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Shocked that the highly intelligent Brian Urlacher made this mistake. Shocked.


He's right

His comment assumes this unrest is singularly a result of this one incident which is obviously not true.

He knows that. You know that, I know that. Why pretend its something other than what it is for the IG clout?

Also the comparison to a parent dying is ridiculous.


He was speaking of the boycott and not the unrest right?

The boycott was also not based on just Jacob Blake.

Blake is one of many. Whatever you think about the veracity of these claims of police racism, it's clear its about what the accusers swe as a pattern of behavior.

Jacob Blake is just the latest name.


Why did the boycott happen 3 days after the shooting?

Did the Bucks play between Sunday and Wednesday? Did the WNBA? Did the Mets and Marlins?

If it wasn't Jake Blake, why have teams been playing at all this year?

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Its absolutely about Jacob Blake. Stop kidding yourselves.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Shocked that the highly intelligent Brian Urlacher made this mistake. Shocked.


He's right

His comment assumes this unrest is singularly a result of this one incident which is obviously not true.

He knows that. You know that, I know that. Why pretend its something other than what it is for the IG clout?

Also the comparison to a parent dying is ridiculous.


He was speaking of the boycott and not the unrest right?

The boycott was also not based on just Jacob Blake.

Blake is one of many. Whatever you think about the veracity of these claims of police racism, it's clear its about what the accusers swe as a pattern of behavior.

Jacob Blake is just the latest name.

I think you’re 100% wrong but ok.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:34 pm 
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It’s pretty clearly a pattern of behavior. Denying that is being willfully ignorant. They literally said that’s what it was about.

But it ended up being completely meaningless anyway so who gives a shit

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Im kidding myself?

You guys actually think this isn't about George Floyd, Eric Garner, and the rest of the list?

How long has LeBron been talking about this? Kaepernick knelt 4 years ago. Black lives matter has been around for years and nearly all the boycotts have mentioned the group/slogan

Not to mention almost every official statement explicitly stated something about patterns or systematic. Almost none of them mention Blake by name

Again you can have a problem with this and think it's dumb but there's no way anyone can make a rational case that these boycotts are about one single case. It's clearly that they think black people are being targeted or black lives are valued less and Jacob Blake is just the latest one.

I point these things out because I believe this is one of the biggest reasons bad information gets passed around and people become uninformed.

The false premise is the match that lights the flame of bad information


It's like regular people have all turned into partisan hacks. You have to dress up reality to make the social media post get the likes or garner sympathy


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Well you know sometimes people get it into their head after watching a :20 video with zero context that there's a pattern. And once the facts come out everything starts to make a tremendous amount of sense.

But by then the binary choice of A) RIOT or B) DONT RIOT has been made, and once you've burned down a CBD you cant just turn around the next day and say "oops my bad". So they double down. And the more context is given that starts to show that maybe Jacob Blake kinda deserved it and maybe Antioch kid was defending itself then the more they double down. To the point where somebody pointing out a verifiable truth, that Jacob Blake is a sex criminal and low-life piece of shit, gets them cancelled and disowned.

This is why I'm so convinced that this is going to spiral. Its not the open-and-shut cases that are going to spiral us. Its these ones that are in the margins. The dynamic where decisions to riot and cause near-permanent damage to cities with widespread arson are made almost instantly by an online consciousness (an online consciousness that treats any dissent as literally "violence"), a mob that really has its mind made up before they even watch the video, is like a runaway nuclear reaction.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Im kidding myself?

You actually think this isn't about George Floyd, Eric Garner, and the rest of the list?

How long has LeBron been talking about this? Kaepernick knelt 4 years ago. Black lives matter has been around for years and nearly all the boycotts have mentioned the group/slogan

Not to mention almost every official statement explicitly stated something about patterns or systematic. Almost none of them mention Blake by name

Again you can have a problem with this and think it's dumb but there's no way anyone can make a rational case that these boycotts are about one single case. It's clearly that they think black people are being targeted or black lives are valued less and Jacob Blake is just the latest one.

And that’s obviously proven to be a false narrative .

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Never found this guy special. Just another dumb jock. Good move by the bears to distance themselves.


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It’s pretty clearly a pattern of behavior. Denying that is being willfully ignorant. They literally said that’s what it was about.

But it ended up being completely meaningless anyway so who gives a shit


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badrogue17 wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Im kidding myself?

You actually think this isn't about George Floyd, Eric Garner, and the rest of the list?

How long has LeBron been talking about this? Kaepernick knelt 4 years ago. Black lives matter has been around for years and nearly all the boycotts have mentioned the group/slogan

Not to mention almost every official statement explicitly stated something about patterns or systematic. Almost none of them mention Blake by name

Again you can have a problem with this and think it's dumb but there's no way anyone can make a rational case that these boycotts are about one single case. It's clearly that they think black people are being targeted or black lives are valued less and Jacob Blake is just the latest one.

And that’s obviously proven to be a false narrative .

It’s irrelevant if you think it’s false or not. The point was about the boycott and the reasons for it, not whether you agree with those reasons or not. Saying it’s about one guy is just simply not true, it’s not up for debate.

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badrogue17 wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Im kidding myself?

You actually think this isn't about George Floyd, Eric Garner, and the rest of the list?

How long has LeBron been talking about this? Kaepernick knelt 4 years ago. Black lives matter has been around for years and nearly all the boycotts have mentioned the group/slogan

Not to mention almost every official statement explicitly stated something about patterns or systematic. Almost none of them mention Blake by name

Again you can have a problem with this and think it's dumb but there's no way anyone can make a rational case that these boycotts are about one single case. It's clearly that they think black people are being targeted or black lives are valued less and Jacob Blake is just the latest one.

And that’s obviously proven to be a false narrative .

You could absolutely make that case and support it with a lot of evidence

But to act like these boycotts were about one case is silly and that is what Urlacher did

I mean we're way past the point of honest discussion and good faith arguments but anyone who goes around saying "remember when they boycotted over Jacob Blake?" is just not being honest. Its spin.

80% of the country has become like Sean Hannity or Shaun King

Honesty would help.


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Never found this guy special. Just another dumb jock. Good move by the bears to distance themselves.


Of course you wouldn't. I just hope that whatever crap gets thrown at him by the BLM mobs aka the NFL players association and the stupid ass commisioner's office that #54 sticks to his guns unlike Drew Brees. Urlacher will be idolized by regular folks in Chicago if he does.

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Urlacher was a great player and leader on those teams. He was right about Phil Emery and Marc Trestman before nearly anyone. People trying to rewrite his legacy because of an instagram post are the worst types of retconners.


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The Mets laid a “Black lives matter” shirt on home plate tonight.
They didn’t lay a “Blake’s life matters” shirt.

The entire WNBA wore Breonna Taylor shirts today.

But yeah, this whole protest is obviously only about Jacob Blake.

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If people think this is ONLY all about Blake, I can get down with that too.

Yeah. Blake’s shooting was absolutely that bad.

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Never found this guy special. Just another dumb jock. Good move by the bears to distance themselves.


Of course you wouldn't. I just hope that whatever crap gets thrown at him by the BLM mobs aka the NFL players association and the stupid ass commisioner's office that #54 sticks to his guns unlike Drew Brees. Urlacher will be idolized by regular folks in Chicago if he does.



no man . even if he didnt tweet this stupid shit i always never considered him special outside of his football talent.


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Shocked that the highly intelligent Brian Urlacher made this mistake. Shocked.

Stud move.

And it is the proper take.

All these motherfuckers pontificating on shit before the facts are out - and not even being interested in discovering what the facts are - just vilify some cops.

Fuck these fools. They all need to get some apologies written up. Black people are NOT under attack by cops. I don't care how you look at it.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Shocked that the highly intelligent Brian Urlacher made this mistake. Shocked.

Stud move.

And it is the proper take.

All these motherfuckers pontificating on shit before the facts are out - and not even being interested in discovering what the facts are - just vilify some cops.

Fuck these fools. They all need to get some apologies written up. Black people are NOT under attack by cops. I don't care how you look at it.


this is plain ignorant and you even admitted it.


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HawaiiYou wrote:
FukNuggitt wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Shocked that the highly intelligent Brian Urlacher made this mistake. Shocked.

Stud move.

And it is the proper take.

All these motherfuckers pontificating on shit before the facts are out - and not even being interested in discovering what the facts are - just vilify some cops.

Fuck these fools. They all need to get some apologies written up. Black people are NOT under attack by cops. I don't care how you look at it.


this is plain ignorant and you even admitted it.

1. Don't walk around in public inebriated.

2. Don't commit crimes.

3. When a police officer gives you a command, follow the command.

4. Go home happy that the situation de-escalated, or get in the squad and call a lawyer when you get to the station.

It is that simple until you make it more complicated by being an ass and putting your own life at risk.

If your sense of rebellion overrides your sense of logic and your ability to be reasoned with, maybe you just weren't meant to be here that long anyways.

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FukNuggitt wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
FukNuggitt wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Shocked that the highly intelligent Brian Urlacher made this mistake. Shocked.

Stud move.

And it is the proper take.

All these motherfuckers pontificating on shit before the facts are out - and not even being interested in discovering what the facts are - just vilify some cops.

Fuck these fools. They all need to get some apologies written up. Black people are NOT under attack by cops. I don't care how you look at it.


this is plain ignorant and you even admitted it.

1. Don't walk around in public inebriated.

2. Don't commit crimes.

3. When a police officer gives you a command, follow the command.

4. Go home happy that the situation de-escalated, or get in the squad and call a lawyer when you get to the station.

It is that simple until you make it more complicated by being an ass and putting your own life at risk.

If your sense of rebellion overrides your instincts toward survival, maybe you just weren't meant to be here that long anyways.


tell me why this guy wasn't shot in the back 8 times? same situation. how did the cop know he didnt have a gun or knife in his car?

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout ... hen_white/


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HawaiiYou wrote:
FukNuggitt wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
FukNuggitt wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Shocked that the highly intelligent Brian Urlacher made this mistake. Shocked.

Stud move.

And it is the proper take.

All these motherfuckers pontificating on shit before the facts are out - and not even being interested in discovering what the facts are - just vilify some cops.

Fuck these fools. They all need to get some apologies written up. Black people are NOT under attack by cops. I don't care how you look at it.


this is plain ignorant and you even admitted it.

1. Don't walk around in public inebriated.

2. Don't commit crimes.

3. When a police officer gives you a command, follow the command.

4. Go home happy that the situation de-escalated, or get in the squad and call a lawyer when you get to the station.

It is that simple until you make it more complicated by being an ass and putting your own life at risk.

If your sense of rebellion overrides your instincts toward survival, maybe you just weren't meant to be here that long anyways.


tell me why this guy wasn't shot in the back 8 times? same situation. how did the cop know he didnt have a gun or knife in his car?

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout ... hen_white/

Wasn't it just uncovered that he was pulled over for a seat belt violation?

That cop showed incredible restraint in not smoking that fool, but when his boss saw this he probably got fired over pulling his gun out over an ordinance violation, no?

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rogers park bryan wrote:
You could absolutely make that case and support it with a lot of evidence

But to act like these boycotts were about one case is silly and that is what Urlacher did

I mean we're way past the point of honest discussion and good faith arguments but anyone who goes around saying "remember when they boycotted over Jacob Blake?" is just not being honest. Its spin.

80% of the country has become like Sean Hannity or Shaun King

Honesty would help.


Honesty is the statistics. Last year there were 14 unarmed black men shot and killed by the police. There were 25 unarmed white people. If Black Livers Matter were an honest movement, with clear goals it would be called end police violence or stop the shootings. Calling about 1 shooting and killing per month in a nation of 330 million a pattern is absurd. To say there is a pattern of police targeting black men is divisive spin that cannot be proven.

There were close to 8,000 black murder victims last year. If you wanted an honest movement called Black Lives Matter free of spin, which pattern of murders would you target?

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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You could absolutely make that case and support it with a lot of evidence

But to act like these boycotts were about one case is silly and that is what Urlacher did

I mean we're way past the point of honest discussion and good faith arguments but anyone who goes around saying "remember when they boycotted over Jacob Blake?" is just not being honest. Its spin.

80% of the country has become like Sean Hannity or Shaun King

Honesty would help.


Honesty is the statistics. Last year there were 14 unarmed black men shot and killed by the police. There were 25 unarmed white people. If Black Livers Matter were an honest movement, with clear goals it would be called end police violence or stop the shootings. Calling about 1 shooting and killing per month in a nation of 330 million a pattern is absurd. To say there is a pattern of police targeting black men is divisive spin that cannot be proven.

There were close to 8,000 black murder victims last year. If you wanted an honest movement called Black Lives Matter free of spin, which pattern of murders would you target?

All honesty is welcome.


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Well an honest response to a police shooting is not what the NBA is doing. They’ve turned a universal problem into a divisive racial issue. And if you want real honesty there are going to be hundreds of more black lives lost because of the attacks on police. Look at what’s happening in Chicago and New York. Really every major city.

It’s also honest to say police shootings are way down in recent years. Reforms are being made.

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Well an honest response to a police shooting is not what the NBA is doing. They’ve turned a universal problem into a divisive racial issue. And if you want real honesty there are going to be hundreds of more black lives lost because of the attacks on police. Look at what’s happening in Chicago and New York. Really every major city.

It’s also honest to say police shootings are way down in recent years. Reforms are being made.

I havent said anything to the contrary.

It's simply that Urlacher's premise was a false one. I think there is way too much of that and of course it comes from all parts of the political spectrum.


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Was Urlacher's post problematic?

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Was Urlacher's post problematic?

I mean, it doesn't cause me any problems.

It's just another false premise which is way too common these days.

But I dont see that getting any better.

Anyway, it just puts him in the category of people who share fake news and use the false premise to make statements that have no bearing on reality.

So if you were looking to former LB Chicago Bear Great Brian Urlacher for social/political commentary, might need to find a new source.


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Never found this guy special. Just another dumb jock. Good move by the bears to distance themselves.

hey the rest stops and overpasses of greater chicagoland found urlacher AND lance briggs to be special. never underestimate the power of a good overpass.

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Its just everyone on the Left Side trying to play "Trump Gotcha".

They are trying to throw anything at the wall at this point. Everybody wants that backslap from the "enlightened" crowd of people who sit in their underwear eating Chinese takeout in their grandmother's basement.

Everyone wants to do their part to try to obstruct the man, who is just trying to do his job. If you were to take out all the obstruction and misdirection, nobody with an objective mind could argue what a great job Trump has done as President.

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I was just thinking "I wonder what Brian Urlacher thinks about this layered, incredibly complex topic" but I was too busy first asking Ditka.

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